Owned one. Maybe or maybe not, but is damn boring. I have Seikos with “lower” specs that I’d take any day of the week. Sold the Tissot, kept the Seikos. Also, for 800 I would look for an used Oris Aquis.

 

At this price range I would go for something from H2O. You don't see these everyday and the quality is very good.

 

 

In my opinion, the tissot seastar 1000 is the best dive/daily watch under 800 dollars as it features sapphire crystal, ceramic bezel, see-through caseback, 300 meter water resistance, and the well known powematic 80 caliber (eta 2824-2 with 80 hour power reserve) presumably being able to achieve near-cosc accuracy and an available with a silicone (for magnetic fields resistance) hair spring. If someone knows a watch with a better bang for buck please name it. (Hope this post doesn't make the watch's price to go up)

Depends on how you define best. A Scurfa D1 for $250 does all that with higher water resistance, a smaller more comfortable case, and is at least 10x more accurate than the Tissot.

So you figure out what watch you like and then make up your own definition of best to single it out.

 

Pound for pound Certina is better at anything Tissot throws at it. So the Certina dive line is better than Tissot, the ds1 dress watches for me are better than the Visodate because it doesn't f.... short minute hand, the GADA ds4/ds8 line is rivaled by the Gentleman, the ds2 precidrive chronos are unmatched.

 

Not to mention the DS Action diver is also ISO certified, making it a genuine dive watch while the Tissot is not.

 

I am shallow and go for looks every time. For that money I would go with the Mido Ocean Star. Same movement I think.

 

I was considering the Mido as well and its design is different than the Tissot but just as unique.
Its movement CD07.621 however is the variant of Powermatic 80 that adds weekday but does not offer Silicon hairspring like the Tissot Silicium CD07.811.
The variations of the Powermatic 80 is confusing and it seems that different makers within the Swatch group gets different features distributed (or agreed upon)...

 

I agree with you about the Tissot Seastar 1000, the quality and the specs are better than more expensive divers and you couldn't have a watch that is 10x more accurate, mine is almost perfect accuracy and the deep blue dial is beautiful.

 

The spec on the movement in the Scurfa is -10 to +20 seconds per month (30 days), which is about the same as the spec for the daily rate (1 Day) of the Powermatic 80. So it's a safe assumption (fact really) that a Scurfa D1 would be 10 x as accurate on average as a Seastar.

I had a Scurfa D1 that gained 2 seconds per month, but I can't say that all of them will keep that rate and I can't base off of that, even though I'm sure it's far ahead of any powermatic. Just because you got a lucky sample doesn't mean everyone will, but in averages the watches are not even in the same league. The miracle of quartz lol

The dial on your tissot is amazing btw! Never saw that combo before it sure is a looker.

 

It’s awesome when you love your watch 👍

 

In my opinion, the tissot seastar 1000 is the best dive/daily watch under 800 dollars as it features sapphire crystal, ceramic bezel, see-through caseback, 300 meter water resistance, and the well known powematic 80 caliber (eta 2824-2 with 80 hour power reserve) presumably being able to achieve near-cosc accuracy and an available with a silicone (for magnetic fields resistance) hair spring. If someone knows a watch with a better bang for buck please name it. (Hope this post doesn't make the watch's price to go up)

You pretty well summed it up, skip the seiko's.

 

same here, variant with Silicon hairspring:

 

It’s a quality watch, no question. But so vanilla.

 

It may be the best value if we are looking at traditional brands (I think the Tissot gentleman with the same movement holds that place), but there is no way it’s better than the (real) diving or “adventure” oriented micro brands out there. H2o, Benarus, Deep Blue, Boschett, Marathon, just to name a few.

 

Personally, i don't think a clear case back or a ceramic bezel insert necessarily equals a better dive watch. Those are both more an issue of personal preference.

Food for thought: Tissot Seastar chrono, Certina DS Action diver, Scurfa Bell Diver 1. all have a solid case back and sapphire glass. The Tissot and Certina are 300m water resistant, the Scurfa is 500m. This Tissot and the Certina have metal bezel inserts, the Scurfa is ceramic (lumed ceramic). All cost under $500 new from grey market sellers.

Tissot's stock rubber dive strap is very nice - I swap that in if I want to wear the Tissot in the water, though i normally prefer this shell cordovan strap with it.

Of these three, i like the Certina best.

This one is available for right around $800 and is also a really good dive watch:

 

decent watch for the $...I do think between the huge hands, bezel text and tiny lollipop seconds hand that it's 'proportions' are off a little but again still a decent watch

 

i would also vote for the certina action diver, now there is the 43 and new the 38 mm version. something extravagant is the ph200 or ph500 (that i have). i have now a hamilton, mido, tissot and certina diver. for me certinas has the best value in these entry mid swiss swatchgroup watches. certina is totally underrated. but yeah i also like tissot, after all these brands are not far from each other.

 

No love for Long Island Watches, San Martin, Steeldive, Glycine, etc? Maybe not quite the quality of Tissot etc, particularly the movement, but amazing value.

 

the well known powematic 80 caliber (eta 2824-2 with 80 hour power reserve)

Personally not a fan of the low beat rate, nor of the Swatch policy to replace "your" movement with a refurbished one when sent in for service.

And did they fix the 2824 hand-winding issue on the powermatic version? AFAIK, no.

 

Personally not a fan of the low beat rate, nor of the Swatch policy to replace "your" movement with a refurbished one when sent in for service

I've heard the quoted policy the first time but it could well underline the fact that the new movement is harder to tune without factory equipment.

And did they fix the 2824 hand-winding issue on the powermatic version? AFAIK, no.

Can you elaborate this "not-yet-fixed" issue? I've owned a powermatic 80 (CD07.811) over 3 months now and have not noticed anything unusual... Thanks

 

Those suggesting Scurfa D1 and others should take into account that sometimes the prospect of a long standing Swiss brand with some real heritage is attractive to SOME people. "Sum of the parts" spec wars aren't always the only measurement to be considered. Plus, quartz -vs- auto accuracy comparison is ridiculous and should be left out.


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A CW Trident would be my pick in that price range. Possible with coupon/one of their sales.

 

In my opinion, the tissot seastar 1000 is the best dive/daily watch under 800 dollars as it features sapphire crystal, ceramic bezel, see-through caseback, 300 meter water resistance, and the well known powematic 80 caliber (eta 2824-2 with 80 hour power reserve) presumably being able to achieve near-cosc accuracy and an available with a silicone (for magnetic fields resistance) hair spring. If someone knows a watch with a better bang for buck please name it. (Hope this post doesn't make the watch's price to go up)

I'm not a Steinhart lover, but this Steinhart alone wipes the floor with the Tissot. Steinhart Ocean One Titanium 500 GMT Ceramic STEINHART Ocean One Titanium 500 GMT premium Ceramic

- ETA 2893-2/SW330, élaboré (superior movement IMO to a Powermatic 80).

• Ceramic bezel - equivalent to the Tissot
• Titanium - IMO superior metal to the Tissot (certainly titanium is sold at a premium with many Swatch brands)
• Waterproof to 50ATM - superior (more than 300 meters)
• GMT function - your Tissot doesn't have this
• Sapphire crystals (front and back). Tissot is cheap and don't put sapphire crystals in the case back.

And most important to me, I wouldn't have to look at that hideous T on the second hand. 621 Euro delivered - no US Customs duties because declare value is under $800. Did I change your mind?

 

There are multiple threads here and elsewhere on the 2824 hand-winding issue (google will find them for you), and it is known to retailers like Greg at Watchmann, who includes a note with 2824-equipped watches not to hand-wind them too much.

Still, actual failure of the hand-winding mechanism seems uncommon enough that many people can hand-wind their 2824's without experiencing it.

It's not new, it's been a known weakness in the design since it's inception decades ago.

 

There are multiple threads here and elsewhere on the 2824 hand-winding issue (google will find them for you), and it is known to retailers like Greg at Watchmann, who includes a note with 2824-equipped watches not to hand-wind them too much.

Still, actual failure of the hand-winding mechanism seems uncommon enough that many people can hand-wind their 2824's without experiencing it.

It's not new, it's been a known weakness in the design since it's inception decades ago.

Clear enough answer for me. I of have course heard this before from a few members, hence my questioning of Catlike who frankly made it sound semi-urgent. As I stated, I have had them since 2004 and never experienced it so of course I felt as if it wasn't true. Appears it is true for both us. Some do, some don't. Thanks for responding.

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Like some others on this thread, I've not been able to find much info about my particular model of Seastar. But honestly it runs great and I love the look of the watch (especially the hands) when I put it on. So in my simplistic way ... that is why I enjoy wearing the watch.

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I've flipped back and forth on whether to get a Tissot Seastar. I've mostly held off as the current one grew to 43mm and at nearly 50mm lug to lug wears probably too large for my 6.5" wrist. I do love the blue gradient dial version with the blue sunburst dial and black ceramic bezel. My major complaints on the new Seastar are the illegibility of the bezel markings and the hour markers and the second hand lollipop being ridiculously too small relative to the thick bold hands. The bezel should have been infilled with white markings (not chrome silver) and the second hand lollipop and round hour markers would look better if they were larger.

I wasn't really a fan of the prior Powermatic 80 Seastar due to the Arabic "12" and "6", but in hindsight I wish I picked one up before they disappeared. I especially liked the red bezel variant with the black dial. The ceramic bezel had engraved markers that were more legible and the smaller 42mm size (47mm lug to lug) wore better on my small wrist.

 

For the money its an attractive package and if you like the looks, then go for it
but not sure its the best diver for the money -
- at that price point I would chose one of these all day long: Christopher Ward, Certina PH200, PH500, Longines Hydroquest quartz, Casio G Frog, Seiko King Turtle,

I have often looked at the Tissot and wanted to buy then never jumped
something just looks wrong in the proportions to me
I cant figure it out - is it the stubby hands or tiny indices or wide bezel> dont know, just to my eye not quite right
sorry, just my subjective view

 

same movement but better specs and pedigree...
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