I sense a great disturbance in the force…

 

"These are not the watches you're looking for."

 

First, what kind of daily error are we talking about? Even chronometer-rated watches are only good for about 5 seconds a day. Most Nomos should be 7-10 seconds per day range. Second, it may need service, possibly due to mishandling by the prior owner...this is more likely if bought from a private seller or a dealer that wasn't willing to have it serviced. It could be the watch is just magnetized, too.

 

Nomos have a very good reputation overall, especially with regard to value. This is the first time I‘ve heard of accuracy issues. I don‘t know what their accuracy specs are, but check into that first and then maybe service or simply regulation could solve the problem.

 

I got a Metro Neomatik Silvercut. It's usually around -5 to -10 seconds a day. I mean, that's not great, but within spec. Out of curiosity, took it to a watchmaker and he put it under a timegrapher. Said it's absolutely fine and suggested waiting until service in a few years before having it adjusted/regulated if it really bothered me.

If you are gaining more than 10 seconds or losing more 10 seconds a day, tell Nomos if the watch is under warranty (Nomos customer service is phenomenal), or take it to a watchmaker for diagnostics or service if it is outside warranty.

 

Mine runs +1.5spd. I AM DISAPPOINTED I TELL YOU!!!!1

 

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How old is the watch? When was the last revision performed and the movement serviced? Are the rate deviations constant? Possibly an expert regulation by a watchmaker is sufficient.

Thoughts on Nomos Watches?

The watches are quite visually appealing in my eyes, but they don't fit into my collection at all. I also have a great dislike for the brand because I don't like and want to support their business practices. I would rather buy an Apple Watch than a Nomos, and if I were given a Nomos as a gift, I would either not accept it, immediately give it away, or nail it to a tree and drive the nail through the hand axis to do so.

 

How old is the watch? When was the last revision performed and the movement serviced? Are the rate deviations constant? Possibly an expert regulation by a watchmaker is sufficient.


The watches are quite visually appealing in my eyes, but they don't fit into my collection at all. I also have a great dislike for the brand because I don't like and want to support their business practices. I would rather buy an Apple Watch than a Nomos, and if I were given a Nomos as a gift, I would either not accept it, immediately give it away, or nail it to a tree and drive the nail through the hand axis to do so.

Oh wow this is the first time I hear such dislike for Nomos. Care to explain? I honestly haven't heard anything potentially questionable.

 

They make nice watches and the watches keep excellent resale value.

 

I have two Nomos watches, one is almost twenty years old. They are both within 10 s/d. If it's much worse than that, your watch may be magnetized. You can check it with a compass or take it to a watchmaker, it is very easy to correct if that's the problem. You can even buy a demagnetizer on Amazon for about 10-15 bucks and do it yourself, the watch doesn't have to be opened to fix it.

 

I still don't get why everyone that spends more than $1,000 on a watch doesn't own a timegrapher. I outgrew my 1000 in a couple of weeks and got a 1900 that does 1/10th seconds. It will tell you in a few seconds the condition of a watch movement.

 

As a counter-point; Nomos are a triumph of true design and display an ethos built around aesthetic perfection. Everything from material choice, finishing, typography and colors is finely tuned with such care for detail. I can’t think of many other brands with such high standards for beauty and design

In a sea of bland watch brands we should celebrate that something like Nomos exists and is even relatively affordable/attainable for almost every watch enthusiast.

 

I have a Nomos Club Campus neomatik which performs very well, +3sec/d.
As far as you asked for „thoughts on Nomos“ I think „time + tide“ summed it up pretty well.

Everything you need to know about NOMOS

NOMOS have managed to establish an unmistakeable character while also sticking to an ethos of clean simplicity

timeandtidewatches.com

 

like the design,

movements are inhouse

 

They have long lugs

 

More accurately, their case sizes are compact for their lug lengths. So you should choose a case size that’s smaller than you are typically used to.

 

I like them. Considering adding one at some point. I like the Club Campus and Orion lines. I've generally heard good feedback and have tried on a few. I've taken heed of the lug length point that many make.

 

Probably one of my favorite brand in existence, and their offering strikes a great balance between price and quality

 

I have read the story/ articles on Nomos suing like companies for not upholding Glushutte Saxony specific watch building standards and I both understand and feel for those involved, but to ask a small company like Nomos to go after the biggest company in the industry is probably a bit too much to ask. For all we know they may have started the process only to be dissuaded to not move further with a lawsuit going after Union (Swatch) by lawyers and the costs involved. Seems like a smart business decision to me, right?

I don’t hold this against Nomos, I actually like the brand and the watches of Saxony a lot, the quiet stories and back room legal battles of many, many brands we know very well would surprise us and like this situation, make us think twice about supporting them. Luckily, bigger companies do their best to keep these issues under the radar from the public and mainstream news outlets.

 

This is exactly what I came here to say. Swatch is a giant, and it would probably be pretty bad if a legal war was started with them, especially considering the amount of weight they can throw around. Not only that, the second part of your post is also spot on. I'd be shocked, bewildered, and confused if none of the other brands hadn't gone after each other or had annoying legal battles with one another over small things; this is why the field of corporate/IP/etc. law exists. Great counterpoints you delivered here, glad to see I'm not the only one who thought of them.

Side note: I love my Nomos.

 

I love both of my Nomos watches and they run remarkably well, especially for the price. One is a Neomatik and the other is Caliber Alpha, and both run at ~+3 seconds per day. What do you estimate is the rate for yours? If you will report back with this info then the forum can share opinions about whether yours runs normally and advice on what to do about it if it's abnormal.

 

I don't see a problem with Nomos doing their part to protect the integrity of the Glashütte appellation... where they can. If I was running a brand I might be more hesitant in going after Swatch Group as well.

I've kind of wondered how Union gets away with using what are obviously ETA movements. Seems to me they're the ones with the shady business practices.

 

I have three Nomos watches, all bought around 5-8 years ago, never serviced. Although they are part of a collection, meaning they aren't worn everyday, I have not noticed any accuracy issues. I set them, and a few days later, they are still pretty accurate, probably off by seconds. I don't know what standard the original poster is using, because they didn't elaborate, they just said it wasn't accurate.

As for the lawsuits, I don't know anything about those, but its one person on a forum talking about it, this thread is the first I have heard or read about it. It could be valid to them. It may not be to me. If you think its important, its worth looking into on your end. I wouldn't let one random person on the internet sway me in either direction.

 

Not knowing about the lawsuits does not mean they did not happen. They did happen and they have been discussed here on WUS years ago. Do a search and read all the relevant threads posted here on WUS in 2007 and 2008 and you are in the know.
Final judgement of the Munich court (Landgericht München I) „NOMOS vs MÜHLE“, Feb, 27th, 2007, basically ruled --„Made in Glashütte, Made in Germany – both are protected designations of origin with an international reputation. And both are protected, a mark of quality such as "Cognac“, "Swiss Watches“ or "Parma Ham“. It is therefore that only watches in which over 50 percent of their movements’ value has been created on location that may be sold as "Glashütte Watches“.--

 

I’ve owned five ,still have three.They suffer when selling used ,the two I sold lost big time my Orion just won’t sell.If buyer likes to flip watches this may not be the brand to go for.

 

If your not happy with the way the watch is running have it serviced.

 

interesting that they do not seem to go after the $14 nomos china fakes all over aliexpress and dhgate

i have about 6 of them and they look good and are deadly accurate

like 5 sec a month.

they do have quirks but for 1/100th the price, well,...

 

 

High level viewpoint: I like Nomos watches and feel an affinity towards them.


Why: Seeing the Metro Gangreserve (original 2015) in a magazine piqued my interest to google "what is mechanical watch??" The rest is history.

Experience: I've owned 6 nomos watches and currently hold 2 in my collection. The Metro is probably my least worn watch, but it's not going anywhere.

Accuracy: more than passable when wound at the same time every day (waking up in the morning). I tend to rotate my watch collection frequently and have only noticed deviations in timekeeping at the extreme end of power reserve and only specific units. Hard to tell because some watches I purchased used, while others came to me new. No Nomos has ever made me late for an important event...unless I've set it wrong.

Qualifying statement: I haven't loved every Nomos I've owned. One came with a small lint under the crystal. This was sorted out by the dealer in a forthright and proactive way. Good on them and the brand for making it easy and returning the watch in top shape. Another one (a certain "H" edition) was grossly misrepresented in online glamour shot photos. Was immediately returned and never thought about again. All others have been very well finished with only slight evidence of the scant hand assembly that is part of their manufacture. Good enough for daily use.

Closing: Nomos watches are accurate enough in my experience, but I've never owned one of their automatic movements. For people who are into the brand, they're recognizable in the wild...but it's 50/50 if the wearer is more enthusiastic about the design or watch making.

The nice thing about the brand is that they have a wide range of styles to suit almost anyone, but at the same time they're not for everyone.

 

+1 on buying a watch degausser on Amazon. I bought the top rated one for $32. My Baltic Aquascaphe kept exceptional time when I first got it (-20 seconds a week!), but soon started running fast. I ran it through the degausser and it was back to exceptional accuracy.

Common household items like speakers, laptops, cell phones and microwaves can all magnetize a watch quite easily. If you work in a scientific, medical or construction environment, there could also be things magnetizing your watch. A degausser is a good thing to have for any decent mechanical watch. It's cheaper than shipping a watch somewhere for a warranty claim or taking it to a watchmaker to be looked at and it's simple enough for anyone to use.

If you find yourself working in heavily magnetized environments, it might be worth investing in a watch with antimagnetic features for those specific environments.