[dinexus]

I thought I remembered hearing rumblings awhile back that it would be an IWC (especially given their involvement in the Miramar flight school with this year's Top Gun releases) but the new Maverick trailer dropped today, and that bracelet and case profile look nothing like anything IWC's made to date. Let the speculation begin.

 

[Burgs]

A lot of the FA-18 aircrew are wearing issued Garmin Fenix watches. Could it be that?

 

[MKN]

Looks like one of the old Porsche IWCs or Orfina to me


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[cuthbert]

Of course it was a Porsche Design by Orfina with 5100. That was one of the mechanical chronographs you could find in the 80s and the one of the 5100 regularly issued to NATO pilots along to Tutimas, Heuers, Lemanias, Arctos etc...etc...

That particular watch was lent by a real pilot because Cruise was wearing something gaudy and completely unappropriate for a military pilot. Brigitte Nielsen also wore a PD Orfina in Beverly Hills Cop II, and it appeared in one of Chuck Norris films.

American pilots were not issued these watches like European ones but they were popular as private purchase, this is the way a NATO issued 1717 looks like:

Cruise and its legitimate owner however had a civil reference 1716 like mine.

Oh, in the 80s it costed three times a manual Daytona and the Lemania 5100 was selected by NATO in 1978 against the Valjoux 7750 because it could withstand 7g without losing time, therefore we can say it was the last real mechanical military watch ever issued for its use along with the Poljot 31659 of the same era.

 

[James A]

Here Monochrome claim to know the watch. I agree with them that it does look like a Porsche Design chronograph but I'm not sure they have exactly the right version.

https://monochrome-watches.com/top-...-design-orfina-chronograph-black-pvd-spotted/

They show an Orfina badged watch but I think it was the PD logo version as cuthbert shows above.

Nevertheless Ferdinand Porsche came up with design that was widely copied and heavily influenced that Nato watch look.

More here on how Ferdinand produced this interesting watch.

https://www.watchuseek.com/f11/orfi...nograph-everything-you-need-know-4943543.html

Regards,

 

[cuthbert]

That article has a lot of inaccuracies : in particular the Valjoux 7750 was presented to the pubblic (not released) in 1974.

I got my PD restored by Orfina and I was told they never made watches before late 1975.

For the images of the film, in the original Top Gun it was a very well worn 5100 (the PVD was in reality just a paint) while in the trailer of the new movie it appears it's a brand new watch.

 

[James A]

That article has a lot of inaccuracies : in particular the Valjoux 7750 was presented to the pubblic (not released) in 1974.

Thanks for the input - here Watch wiki confirms your year for 1974.

https://www.watch-wiki.net/index.php?title=Valjoux_7750

Interested about all the other inaccuracies so I can correct for future reference.

Regards,

 

[cuthbert]

Thanks for the input - here Watch wiki confirms your year for 1974.

https://www.watch-wiki.net/index.php?title=Valjoux_7750

Interested about all the other inaccuracies so I can correct for future reference.

Regards,

I think the issue is that PD claimed to have designed this chrono in 1973, perhaps on the drawing board they thought to use a different movement.

Regarding the 7750, it was PRESENTED (not production start) the 1st of July 1974, the start of production is unknown but we know it was stopped in 1975, almost immediately, after having produced at least 100.000 movements, a stock that lasted for a long, long time.

Andretti´s picture in your article is useful because it was taken at the Italian GP, 1975 (cars still had the high air intake that was outlawed in 1976) that took place about the 7th of September, so September 1975 is a "safe" date for the first release of the PD Orfina and the 7750.

The first 7750 powered chrono I know is indeed the Orfina, Heuer and Breitling introduced new models (the Montreal for instance) after discontinuing the Cal.12 (supposedly the 7750 was cheaper) in 1977, Longines also made an early 7750 that I have, almost identical to the Montreal, about that time (1997, 1978) for the Israeli Air Force, this is mine:

 

[cuthbert]

Oh, this is an interesting page on military issues Porsche Design Orfina, definitely the last real pilot chonograph of the West, therefore appropriate for Maverick:

Research project: Orfina/Porsche-Design "MILITARY" chronograph dial variations

 

[danimal107]

Cuthbert... Thanks for posting that educational info.

 

[coffeebreak]

Thanks for all your informative posts. I was just re-watching Top Gun on a flight last night and wondered what watch he was wearing

 

[Nokie]

Good answers everyone!

 

[cuthbert]

More pics!

 

[04z]

Good posts Cuthbert

 

[mav]

I have a feeling, a loving feeling that is, that it might be the newer PD P6510, a modern reissue of the original Chronograph 1.

The bracelet shares a similar pattern as the one from the trailer screenshot in the OP's post.

 

[ICUdude]

This is a fun thread. Nice posts guys. I'm pretty stoked about the new movie and seeing the watch in action.

 

[I Like em BIG ! !]

I have a feeling, a loving feeling that is, that it might be the newer PD P6510, a modern reissue of the original Chronograph 1.

The bracelet shares a similar pattern as the one from the trailer screenshot in the OP's post.

Shouldn't a guy named, Mav... know?!

(You even look like him!)

 

[mav]

Shouldn't a guy named, Mav... know?!

(You even look like him!)

I'm sworn to secrecy!

 

[James A]

I have a feeling, a loving feeling that is, that it might be the newer PD P6510, a modern reissue of the original Chronograph 1.

It makes sense that they would update to a newer model. Here are some stills form the 'Behind the scenes trailer'.

Nothing super clear - think we need to wait till more publicity photos come out. I always thought the first movie was a little cheesy but as I look through the trailers for watch images - I gotta say the flying scenes look very good.

Regards,

 

[G1Ninja]

I love the original Top Gun. I will always believe that is Tom Cruise's best movie. And a perfect movie. But it's also the first movie I ever saw him in, so he is Maverick to me.

The new Top Gun seems to be a nostalgia trip so far with real flying similar to what Tom Cruise is doing in the Mission Impossible series. I'm not crazy about the director going from what he did with Tron Legacy, another 80s movie sequel.