Tornek Rayville Please

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Neily_San

Discussion Starter · May 1, 2019

Hi all,

I sit here, as I write this, with a wonderful P300 ( with date ) on my wrist. I took off the metal bracelet and put it on the supplied NATO. It looks absolutely amazing. It constantly draws the eye. The clarity, crispness and precision of the dial is mesmerising. The bezel is brilliantly legible when viewed straight and reflects all sorts of fabulous colours at other angles.

After the watch finally cleared UK Customs ( after 2 weeks ), it has not left my wrist for a week and I am a very happy man.

Except .... I struggle to describe this ... I have a strange and tiny piece of emptiness inside. A little void where something is missing. Where something used to be. It took me some days to work out what it was ... for the first time in almost 10 years my "incoming list" is now empty. I no longer harbour that small ( often suppressed ) feeling of excitement and anticipation that the P300 has provided for so many years.

So, as an open plea to Bill, will you please take my deposit for a Tornek Rayville. I really don't mind how long the wait, but would prefer something a little less than 10 years ;-)

To those who have received your P300s - enjoy them. For those still waiting - I hope it will not be much longer now.

:-D
Neily

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TheMeasure

· #5 · May 2, 2019

I’m just as excited as the next guy to see the MKII TR re-released. I do believe it will happen soon. Seems like the P300s and KWs are moving along and I’m sure once those are in a good place we’ll hear something.

I hoping for some slight dimension changes, especially a 20mm lug width vs the previous 22mm.

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TheMeasure

· #29 · Aug 20, 2019

Thieuster said:
I wonder what will be the difference between the watches from the small batch Bill produced (and sold) already and the ones that are in the pipeline now!

Yeah it will be interesting to see the changes. I'm really hoping for 20mm lugs. I believe the first gens that Bill made had 22. Personal preference but the 20mm looks better proportioned especially if the case is close to the original. I'd also like Bill to find a creative way to have something that looks like a humidity indicator.. similar to how the text on the first ones represented the indicators.

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TheMeasure

· #42 · Oct 9, 2019

redhed18 said:
Anyone know the size specs on the T-R?

Like are those 20mm or 22mm lugs?

Haven't seen any specs about the RTW TR. I'm really hoping it's slightly smaller than the Gen 1 run. Especially downsizing the lugs from 22 to 20mm.

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TheMeasure

· #47 · Oct 30, 2019

A member asked in another thread so thought I'd put what I know here. This is far from an official MKII update.

I was in NYC last week for WindUp and spent some time catching up with Bill. It was a friendly conversation about life, watches, etc.. nothing close to a formal Q&A about MKII which I wouldn't have wanted. So while i wish I had more details to share along with pics I don't. No prototype was present.

The Tornek Rayville is coming. I believe even a few weeks ago someone re-posted a comment from MKII's IG where designs are with the vendor and awaiting sign off. The release date is still TBD. The TR is going to be in the RTW line. Bill did shrink the proportions slightly from his original TR. It will have 20mm lug width and I think the case width will be 40mm-ish (don't quote me on the case width). I was excited to hear this as I believe this new size will be better proportioned. I was in either way, but I'll love it even more with the smaller size. I'm hoping more people feel the same. I asked about the differences between the TR and Stingray as both are listed. The main difference is that the TR will have the Tornek Rayville branding while the Stingray will have the MKII branding.. I'm guessing similar to how the first TR's and Stingrays were done. As far as the options of dials, bezels, and dates/no dates that wasn't discussed.

Cheers!

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TheMeasure

· #49 · Oct 30, 2019

redhed18 said:
Massive fist pump!
Thanks for this update!

My pleasure!

TheMeasure

· #53 · Oct 31, 2019

Emceemon said:
I kind of Wish the price will be under 1000$ (no Soprod movement)...

I didn't ask about pricing or movement, but I'm sure it will have the NE15, same as the other RTW pieces.

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TheMeasure

· #57 · Nov 28, 2019

maxward said:
Any more recent news or rumors regarding a release date for this model? Hoping for end of year or sooner. Thanks.

Nothing since WindUp. As much as I'd love to see a release before end of year, I don't think that will happen. Hopefully early part of 2020.

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TheMeasure

· #64 · Dec 10, 2019

boatswain said:
Sorry to add to the demand but...subscribed

Good to have you here boatswain, no need to apologize.

The TR/Stingray will be a great first MKII.

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TheMeasure

· #83 · Feb 12, 2020

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From MKII's IG page, reiterating what the update said.

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TheMeasure

· #88 · Feb 12, 2020

boatswain said:
As this is my first potential MKII and RTW preorder what's the usual drill?

Is it a 50% up front scenario?

With the Benchcrafted series, it's historically been 50% deposit up front then the remainder down the road.

From memory I can't recall any RTW series requiring a deposit. They all required the full amount up front. However that could all change.

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TheMeasure

· #92 · Feb 12, 2020

As others have mentioned, I think the total cost will be similar to the Paradive. While $450 may or may not be a deposit amount, that amount has been there for years.

TheMeasure

· #105 · Feb 12, 2020 (Edited)

Awesom-O 4000 said:
So is this going to be like the Halios Seaforth release, where you have to get one in the first 3 seconds?

While I think the spots will go quickly, I don't think it will be like the Seaforth Gen II ordering. I doubt many microwatch releases can replicate that frenzy. At the time the Seaforth had a lot more publicity, and was more widely desired amongst the community. While the Seaforth was never labeled limited edition, the Gen II run was going to be the last, so all that drove demand especially with flippers who if could get one, could make a decent profit. The TR while may be released in limited batches is not limited to "X" number of pieces.

TheMeasure

· #106 · Feb 12, 2020

I think a few of asked the differences between the TR and Stingray.

I’m guessing the cases will be the same. What i do know is the TR has the Tornek Rayville branding and the Stingray will get the MKII branding. I think there will be subtle differences in dial and bezel layouts. The TR will look like the TR and I would think the Stingray will have options that more resemble the vintage Blancpain Fifty Fathoms. Prob similar to how Bill did his first gens TR and Stingray models.

This release is for the TR only, Stingray will be at a later date.

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TheMeasure

· #177 · Feb 20, 2020

clouser said:
For everyone who's PayPal got charged but your order didn't go through, check your email. MKII is honoring those orders!!!

Thanks for the update. I was wondering today when my PayPal credit was going to show up. Sounds like we'll also get a sweatshirt as well. Really refreshing to hear this!

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TheMeasure

· #182 · Feb 20, 2020 (Edited)

mleok said:
The Helson Skindiver has a sapphire bezel, just saying. It's silly to pair an acrylic bezel with a sapphire crystal.

When the time comes to choose my TR config, I'm going with the acrylic insert. That will be my second watch that has sapphire crystal and acrylic insert. My other is a Paradive. I love the combo. The acrylic really adds to the vintage vibe and mine has held up well. I like the idea that over time my crystal should be pretty much blemish free and the insert will have aged/wabi/patina nicely. I don't purposely beat up my Paradive but I don't baby it either. I get that it is not everyone's cup of tea, but that's why Bill offers the anodized aluminum insert. I don't think there is a wrong choice, both look great simply personal preference.

Cheers.

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TheMeasure

· #188 · Feb 24, 2020

itibiertia0887 said:
Sorry for this stupid question, but which model is the TR a homage of? the Stingray?

TR is a homage to the Tornek Rayville TR-900

Stingray would be a homage to the Blancpain Fifty Fathoms Milspec

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TheMeasure

· #190 · Feb 24, 2020

at2011 said:
Since Bill owns the rights to the Tornek-Rayville name, shouldn't the TR-660 be referred to as a "reissue" and the Stingray a "homage" since the BP Fifty Fathoms name is still owned by Blancpain?

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I understand what you're saying. I don't feel homage and reissue have to be mutually exclusive. At the same time I don't have a preference either way. I'm good with reissue, homage, inspired by etc.

TheMeasure

· #258 · Mar 9, 2020

tmoris said:
Did you guys get the s&h returned to your card/paypal by american trench yet?

I ordered my jacket last week on the 2nd. Just received a notification today from American Trench stating my refund has been processed.

My credit should be posted here in a few days.

TheMeasure

· #269 · Mar 11, 2020

For those interested, American Trench has the TR sweatshirt up on their site. No private link needed.

TheMeasure

· #276 · Mar 13, 2020

Is there anyone else who has not received your sweatshirt or at least tracking info that was part of the TR watch pre order?

Simply curious as to where American Trench might be in their fulfillment. I know they’re a smaller shop too so I’m not expecting Amazon Prime shipping speed here.

And it could be I chose a more popular/common size so maybe it’s back ordered.

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