I hope I'm still alive when this project moves forward, I'm at the saddest point in my life and the only cure is when Bill starts taking Tornek deposits.:---(
Don't care. Still getting one. Waited for so long I will not be denied.I've had three 6R15s in the SARB033 and SARB035, and I found them to have poor accuracy and noticeable anisochronism and positional variance. They're just rather inconsistent performers, and I much prefer the Miyota 9015 or ETA 2824-2 movements for their accuracy.
In a $900 watch with a year long wait, I think I'll wait to see real life photos before making a final decision about whether it's a watch I have to have. I'm also a bit miffed that something from their "Ready to Wear" line has a year long lag time. Wasn't the point of that line that they would be ready to order, unlike their "Benchcrafted" line?
Also, according to the specifications, it appears to have a choice between an acrylic or aluminum bezel insert, even though the crystal is sapphire. At that price, it should have a sapphire bezel as well.
FEW MORE HOURS AWAY I CAN DECLARE I'M FULLY CURED!!!!I hope I'm still alive when this project moves forward, I'm at the saddest point in my life and the only cure is when Bill starts taking Tornek deposits.:---(
Since Bill owns the rights to the Tornek-Rayville name, shouldn't the TR-660 be referred to as a "reissue" and the Stingray a "homage" since the BP Fifty Fathoms name is still owned by Blancpain?TR is a homage to the Tornek Rayville TR-900
Stingray would be a homage to the Blancpain Fifty Fathoms Milspec
But if you own something, why would you make a homage of it when you can just reissue with a slightly different take? I just interpret the word "homage" as someone making a tribute or close copy of something they do not own in honor of it, not sure if anyone shares the same opinion, I could be wrong.Well, it doesn't have the Promethium-147 lume and the moisture indicator, so it's still a bit closer to a homage, than a reissue.
Yes, understood it's not an original TR, but since he owns the brand now, he makes another run for it albeit the difference, a "reissue" then. If I bought the rights to the Swatch name fast forward 2050 assuming the company became bankrupt, and I'm referring to the colorful watches of the 80s, and I make another batch in 2051 with different colors and designs but with the same case and dimensions, I wouldn't consider it a "homage" right? It's still a Swatch watch, but only reissuing it for the next generation.Even though MKII owns the rights to the name, it isn't really Tornek-Rayville, it is a zombie brand revival.
Bottom line is, the final product should be good with updated movement and improved water resistance rating. Just hoping Bill would put in the caseback treatment and markings with an MK II spin similar to the original.Except zombies are real.
The TR-660 isn't.
Not yet at least...
Cakes of deception.I'm not sure the NE15 can be considered an "updated movement".
So does this mean that all new Blancpains, Omegas, Hamiltons or Breguets are just new models of Swatch?I'd call it a new model from the Mk II brand.
But yeah...it's great it's finally seeing the light of day.
Precisely my point. Just because ownership of the name changed hands doesn't mean that this watch isn't a real TR.When they start putting the name "Swatch" on the dial face of a Speedmaster...I'll agree with you.
The image on the right is that of the original TR. If you look for TR images online, you'll find this one. The one on the left is MKII version. The images has nothing to do with the actual function of the moisture indicator, I suspect the built version will be purely aesthetic as the first MKII TR. There's actually a moisture indicator paper available for purchase online, hope to see a good mod in the future.Am I reading these illustrations too literally to think the acrylic bezel version (right) will have the circular moisture indicator and the aluminium bezel version (left) will not?
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I was thinking the same thing too and even commented on it earlier. But when I was looking at other TR images online, I found this image and thought this might be the look Bill was gunning for.I'm nitpicking and it's not a deal breaker..
But I do wish the tip of the crown had more of a half dome to it versus what appears to be a fairly flat edge.