Tornek Rayville Please

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Neily_San

Discussion Starter · May 1, 2019

Hi all,

I sit here, as I write this, with a wonderful P300 ( with date ) on my wrist. I took off the metal bracelet and put it on the supplied NATO. It looks absolutely amazing. It constantly draws the eye. The clarity, crispness and precision of the dial is mesmerising. The bezel is brilliantly legible when viewed straight and reflects all sorts of fabulous colours at other angles.

After the watch finally cleared UK Customs ( after 2 weeks ), it has not left my wrist for a week and I am a very happy man.

Except .... I struggle to describe this ... I have a strange and tiny piece of emptiness inside. A little void where something is missing. Where something used to be. It took me some days to work out what it was ... for the first time in almost 10 years my "incoming list" is now empty. I no longer harbour that small ( often suppressed ) feeling of excitement and anticipation that the P300 has provided for so many years.

So, as an open plea to Bill, will you please take my deposit for a Tornek Rayville. I really don't mind how long the wait, but would prefer something a little less than 10 years ;-)

To those who have received your P300s - enjoy them. For those still waiting - I hope it will not be much longer now.

:-D
Neily

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at2011

· #13 · Jun 12, 2019

I hope I'm still alive when this project moves forward, I'm at the saddest point in my life and the only cure is when Bill starts taking Tornek deposits.:-

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at2011

· #116 · Feb 13, 2020

mleok said:
I've had three 6R15s in the SARB033 and SARB035, and I found them to have poor accuracy and noticeable anisochronism and positional variance. They're just rather inconsistent performers, and I much prefer the Miyota 9015 or ETA 2824-2 movements for their accuracy.

In a $900 watch with a year long wait, I think I'll wait to see real life photos before making a final decision about whether it's a watch I have to have. I'm also a bit miffed that something from their "Ready to Wear" line has a year long lag time. Wasn't the point of that line that they would be ready to order, unlike their "Benchcrafted" line?

Also, according to the specifications, it appears to have a choice between an acrylic or aluminum bezel insert, even though the crystal is sapphire. At that price, it should have a sapphire bezel as well.

Don't care. Still getting one. Waited for so long I will not be denied.

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at2011

· #117 · Feb 13, 2020

at2011 said:
I hope I'm still alive when this project moves forward, I'm at the saddest point in my life and the only cure is when Bill starts taking Tornek deposits.:---(

FEW MORE HOURS AWAY I CAN DECLARE I'M FULLY CURED!!!!

at2011

· #189 · Feb 24, 2020

TheMeasure said:
TR is a homage to the Tornek Rayville TR-900

Stingray would be a homage to the Blancpain Fifty Fathoms Milspec

Since Bill owns the rights to the Tornek-Rayville name, shouldn't the TR-660 be referred to as a "reissue" and the Stingray a "homage" since the BP Fifty Fathoms name is still owned by Blancpain?

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at2011

· #198 · Feb 26, 2020 (Edited)

mleok said:
Well, it doesn't have the Promethium-147 lume and the moisture indicator, so it's still a bit closer to a homage, than a reissue.

But if you own something, why would you make a homage of it when you can just reissue with a slightly different take? I just interpret the word "homage" as someone making a tribute or close copy of something they do not own in honor of it, not sure if anyone shares the same opinion, I could be wrong.

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at2011

· #200 · Feb 26, 2020

mleok said:
Even though MKII owns the rights to the name, it isn't really Tornek-Rayville, it is a zombie brand revival.

Yes, understood it's not an original TR, but since he owns the brand now, he makes another run for it albeit the difference, a "reissue" then. If I bought the rights to the Swatch name fast forward 2050 assuming the company became bankrupt, and I'm referring to the colorful watches of the 80s, and I make another batch in 2051 with different colors and designs but with the same case and dimensions, I wouldn't consider it a "homage" right? It's still a Swatch watch, but only reissuing it for the next generation.

at2011

· #202 · Feb 26, 2020

Hogan said:
Except zombies are real.

The TR-660 isn't.

Not yet at least...

Bottom line is, the final product should be good with updated movement and improved water resistance rating. Just hoping Bill would put in the caseback treatment and markings with an MK II spin similar to the original.

at2011

· #207 · Feb 26, 2020

Hogan said:
I'm not sure the NE15 can be considered an "updated movement".

Cakes of deception.

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· #238 · Mar 3, 2020

Hogan said:
I'd call it a new model from the Mk II brand.

But yeah...it's great it's finally seeing the light of day.

So does this mean that all new Blancpains, Omegas, Hamiltons or Breguets are just new models of Swatch?

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at2011

· #241 · Mar 3, 2020

Hogan said:
When they start putting the name "Swatch" on the dial face of a Speedmaster...I'll agree with you.

Precisely my point. Just because ownership of the name changed hands doesn't mean that this watch isn't a real TR.

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at2011

· #305 · Oct 14, 2020

Still hoping I won't die of COVID by the time it ships. Praying as hard as I can to be alive by the time it gets to me.

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at2011

· #306 · Oct 14, 2020

Shipment estimated Q2 2021.

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at2011

· #307 · Oct 14, 2020

Late Q2, 2021.

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at2011

· #313 · Oct 15, 2020 (Edited)

Sometimes the journey makes the reward more special.

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· #338 · Jan 29, 2021

I'm more bothered by the crown than the bezel, would've been nicer if it was made similar to the original. Just hoping the watch won't look anything like those cheap Chinese knockoffs on the most popular online auction site.

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at2011

· #347 · Feb 6, 2021

Color looks like titanium. Is it supposed to be stainless steel?

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· #353 · Feb 28, 2021

Stev0 said:
Am I reading these illustrations too literally to think the acrylic bezel version (right) will have the circular moisture indicator and the aluminium bezel version (left) will not?

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The image on the right is that of the original TR. If you look for TR images online, you'll find this one. The one on the left is MKII version. The images has nothing to do with the actual function of the moisture indicator, I suspect the built version will be purely aesthetic as the first MKII TR. There's actually a moisture indicator paper available for purchase online, hope to see a good mod in the future.

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at2011

· #369 · Apr 21, 2021

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Vintage TR operating instructions

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· #383 · May 7, 2021 (Edited)

TheMeasure said:
I'm nitpicking and it's not a deal breaker..
But I do wish the tip of the crown had more of a half dome to it versus what appears to be a fairly flat edge.

I was thinking the same thing too and even commented on it earlier. But when I was looking at other TR images online, I found this image and thought this might be the look Bill was gunning for.

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· #389 · Jul 11, 2021

Wow! Can't believe this is really happening!

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