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Trying to Decide and Determine Gold Content Between an Tudor Oyster Pince Date-Day S&G and a Rolex Datejust S&G

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#1 · (Edited)
Hello Everyone,

I'm trying to decide between an Tudor Oyster Pince Date-Day S&G and a Rolex Datejust S&G and am trying to determine the gold content of each when it comes to the year of production. Let me just preface that the gold content is not the sole reason I wish to purchase either watch. I love the way both watches look, however, it is somewhat of a cost factor.

Apparently the older generation of Tudor Oyster-Prince Date-Day S&Gs utilized 14k gold bezels and brushed gold on stainless steel jubilee bracelets (older generation also utilized the exact style of the Rolex jubilee bracelet as today's models). This appears to be accurate as far as the bracelet is concerned as can be shown in the below photo of an older generation Tudor showing stainless steel on the back of the bracelet indicating that the links are not solid gold.

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The current generation of Tudors seem to utilize a solid 18k gold bezel and as far as the newer style of bracelet, I've read on some forums that they utilize hollow 18k gold links. The new style Tudor jubilee bracelet only has one gold link in a row as opposed to the previous generation Tudor bracelet and current Rolex jubilee bracelet utilizing 3. The picture of a recent generation Tudor below shows gold on the back of the bracelet link so I assume that this may be true but I'm not 100% sure.

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According to the link below, it appears that all Rolex Datejust S&G have utilized 18k gold bezels for some time now. The older generations (pre-early 2000s) are reported to have hollow 18k gold links. Apparently the links were changed to solid 18k gold after the early 2000's. This may also account for the seemingly drastic price increase of early 2000 models to late 2000 models on the used market.


I have not taken the crown/dial or hands into consideration for either Rolex or Tudor but any insight would be greatly appreciated.

With all that being said I love the look of both watches. The Rolex is my preferred choice and a bit out of my price range. I feel that the Tudor offers great value for it's appearance and I love the complication of date and day for a fraction of what the Rolex is selling for. I understand the reputation that is part of the Rolex brand, but prices even for used Rolex Datejust seem to be a bit exorbitant given today's market.

Does what I have posted sound accurate thusfar and can anyone point out any errors in what I have posted (perhaps someone who works for or owns an AD may have some more history/insight into this)?

*Edit - re-attached picture showing back of older gen Tudor
 
#2 ·
Older generation Tudor had their gold plated (like the one you posted), newer generation has gold capping.
Rolex never had plating or capping, it was always solid gold. Older generation had hollow links (including the SS models), newer generation (starting with the 6 digit references) has solid links and end links. The President bracelet of the Rolex Day-Date has always been solid links, since its inception.
 
#3 ·
I'm going to disagree with the above Tudor observation. In the later generation of Date-Day watches, those gold center links are 18K and solid...not capped or plated as in the earlier interations. The fluted and domed YG bezels on the Tudor's have always been solid gold...either 14K for earlier versions or 18K in later models.

YG watch crowns on both Tudor and Rolex models have for the most part been capped, as solid gold is rather soft and would not hold up well as a screw down crown/tube combo.

All of that said, I'm not really understanding what your motive is in questioning the total gold content of the case and bracelet materials and comparing Rolex to Tudor. Rolex, as the higher priced brand is always going to have more gold content than its Tudor equivilent. But still, I'm at a loss to rationalize someone comparing gold weight in order to make a decision between the two models you're mentioning. They're two different models with two different movements and designs. Are you planning to tear apart the bracelets and bezels for scrap gold pricing if/when you tire of either watch? I'm no expert in gold pricing, but I have to believe the monetary value of the gold in either bracelet is less than a full bracelet, intact, on the resale market.

I know these forums attract a lot of questions about the very fine points of Rolex/Tudor timepieces, but this is a shrug of the shoulders for me. If you've got the funds for either, then pick your favorite and don't look back.
 
#5 ·
Thanks for the response. This is the first I'm hearing that the Tudor Date-Day center links are 18k solid gold, but I definitely like that idea. Also, good information on the crowns and it makes sense they wouldn't be solid gold.

I know it might sound strange, but it just gives me more peace of mind knowing that if i purchased a ss/gold watch, the gold aspects of the watch would indeed be made out of solid gold. I just feel it adds to the beauty and value of the watch even if no one knows but me. I would never consider tearing the watch down or scrapping it.

As far as movements I like the day/date function more than just the day, however, the Rolex Day-Dates are out of my price range. I do feel that both the Tudor Oysterdate Prince and Datejust are beautiful watches in stainless steel/gold combinations. The Rolex jubilee bracelet wins over the Tudor bracelet, but the I do prefer the Tudor Day-Date movement to the Rolex Datejust.