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A while ago a friend gave me a watch in rather poor condition because I am interested in watches. The rather impressive-looking crystal has a crack at the edge but that's not unexpected, but overall it looks quite nice, except for a mechanical problem.

Here is the watch in question: on the dial it says "Tyson" but on the back it says "Plato". I feel it's one of those Swiss "jobbers", and cannot yet identify the movement.

When wound, it runs quite well, but when the crown is pulled out it cannot set the time. This makes me suspect that perhaps the 4th wheel is not working or broken, but I cannot locate a replacement part to render it functional again, nor would I consider it a project watch worth sinking significant investment to revive. I would like to hear from my learned members who can offer some insight and suggestions.

Just for the record: a while ago at a collectors fair, a watch dealer from whom I bought some watches had another one just like this but with a black dial.
 

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I think the back should say 'Mike' and not 'Plato'
trim, I was expecting that even before I posted! The attempt to restore this watch might give me a black eye too, but there again I might be too chicken to try it:



The poor condition of the case and the labour needed to get it running again might make it a money pit, which makes me apprehensive. Besides I do not have any attachment to it too.
 

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Hi!

I have recieved a Tyson watch that has swiss made on it from my late grandmother who got the watch i think from her own mother. I am wanting to know how i can find out further information on the Tyson watch. Any info or sites would be so beneficial as ive tried looking online and can't find a thing.

Thanks.
 

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Check the post at the top of the forum called Dating and Identification. The instructions will help.

I've not heard of the brand. But there are many brands I have never heard of. Indeed one of the moderators seems to specialize in collecting them :)
 

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He means me.:-d

I regularly buy obscure brands - partly because they go for such so much less than recognised brands but often contain decent movements. Its often impossible to find anything about them. Tyson does not appear to be listed in the usual places such as Mikrolisk - was Feines für die Tasche... - Das Informationsportal rund um die Taschenuhr!

However, this is not unusual as thousands of brands have come and gone in the watch industry leaving little trace. Additionally, watches can be branded by retailers for sale in their shops or by other commercial organisations as promotional gifts. Sorry we can't help.:-(
 

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Tyson_Watch,

It is interesting to hear that a third example of Tyson-branded watches turned up; I do not know your geographic location - or where your grandmother or great-grandmother acquired it, but two out of three found in Sydney may or may not suggest that it was an Australian brand. It would be interesting to see pictures of yours.

The A. Schild movements company (founded by the brother of the man who created Eterna) was a large-scale manufacturer who supplied many watch firms with movements, and they were also used extensively by assemblers who built private label watches. The other AS-powered watch that I have is a private label for the Sydney high-end retailer J. Farren-Price, but apart from the branding, it's as generic as can be, like my Tyson here.

Since my last post in this thread I haven't done much to the watch, except removing the perished rubber gasket which had acquired a delicate shade of green (yikes!) but I certainly do not feel like getting another watch with the same movement - which is likely to be better - as parts source. I would be interested if a fellow members has a parts movement, or the required parts, so that I can get it going again.

EDIT. I got a bit curious and had a bit of a fiddle with it, and found that I can indeed set the time with the crown pulled out in a peculiar way. So I have a suspicion that the problem is with the keyless works; I will get my watchmaker to investigate it further, in due course. Naturally I would still welcome leads on movement parts, stem, etc.
 

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We are from New Zealand, we are not sure if nana or her mother got the watch given to her (from Australia maybe?) or where it was bought from unfortunately.
It is a wind up and still works, we havent had it cleaned or restored in any way it is just the same as when she had it.

It has Tyson, and 17 jewels, INCABLOC, AND Swiss made written on the face. Please refer to photo.

Do you know any what decade it would have been from? The watch has more detailing on the side of the face which is not completely visiable in teh below photo.

Any further info you may know would be greatly appreciated.


Tyson_Watch,

It is interesting to hear that a third example of Tyson-branded watches turned up; I do not know your geographic location - or where your grandmother or great-grandmother acquired it, but two out of three found in Sydney may or may not suggest that it was an Australian brand. It would be interesting to see pictures of yours.

The A. Schild movements company (founded by the brother of the man who created Eterna) was a large-scale manufacturer who supplied many watch firms with movements, and they were also used extensively by assemblers who built private label watches. The other AS-powered watch that I have is a private label for the Sydney high-end retailer J. Farren-Price, but apart from the branding, it's as generic as can be, like my Tyson here.

Since my last post in this thread I haven't done much to the watch, except removing the perished rubber gasket which had acquired a delicate shade of green (yikes!) but I certainly do not feel like getting another watch with the same movement - which is likely to be better - as parts source. I would be interested if a fellow members has a parts movement, or the required parts, so that I can get it going again.

EDIT. I got a bit curious and had a bit of a fiddle with it, and found that I can indeed set the time with the crown pulled out in a peculiar way. So I have a suspicion that the problem is with the keyless works; I will get my watchmaker to investigate it further, in due course.
 

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Tyson_Watch,

Thank you for your additional information and the photograph. It does seem to suggest that Tyson was a brand in Australia - or perhaps including New Zealand - or a lesser known brand geared towards the market in Australia/New Zealand.

The watch industry nowadays is much like how it was decades ago: any Tom Dick or Harry wishing to sell watches under his own brand could get OEMs to build them, under any brand of his choosing. That is why there's been thousands of brands which little (if anything) is known about them, and more often than not using somewhat generic components. Unless a trademark registration is found, then it would be extremely difficult to pin down a brand's provenance. Certainly, many collectors do not consider these pieces as of any value, but then they certainly are quite important in the history of horology and sales.
 

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Hi all,
I recently found this thread looking for Tyson watches. I also have one and located in Newcastle NSW. I also have a Modaide which is
very similar. (See photos) They both have the same movement, a ST1686. Since the tyson is turning up in Australia, I think they were
produced for the local market.
Regards
PJC
 

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I know this is a few years later but that appears to be the correct case. My grandfather gave me his old watch a few years before he passed as he got a new one and this one is much rougher than yours. The dial name is rubbed off but is the same movement. I have yet to find another one. The name is rubbed off but appears to have had a name of Philippe Mertel on the top part as I remember it to be that name when I would admire it as a youngster. I plan on doing a full restoration on it but the dial will be replaced with something compatible. I am going to either refinish the gold plating or have it done and a gouge filled in on one of the arms for the wrist band stems.
 
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