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Mods, if this isn't the right place, my apologies. Feel free to move it.

I recently purchased the Uncle Seiko President 1171 bracelet, and I thought I'd give a review comparing it to my Omega 1171 that I got in January. A little background, I got my Speedmaster about a year ago. Its a 2017 model, so all of this will be based on current case sizes as far as endlinks are concerned. I struggled with the watch for the first part of the year because I just couldn't fall in love with the bracelet. I needed something slimmer and with a better taper. I have a 6.75" wrist, give or take.
I ordered my 1171 from an OB in my area, and they first tried to install it with the 676 endlinks, and the fit just wasn't quite right. OB did not want to install it with the 633s since they needed to be filed down, but I got them to size it and install it on a set of aftermarket endlinks that had an ok fit. I filed down the 633's, but it still wasn't quite right. It is also worth noting that my 633's were pretty squished when I got them (they mailed them to me).
(Omega 633 Endlink Fit Issues, notice the gap above the lug)
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That being said, I adore the 1171. It took the Speedy from "a" watch to "my" watch. But $450+ is pretty expensive for a jangly bracelet with folded center links. I was excited to try the Uncle Seiko.
The finishing and overall look of the US is great. I prefer the solid center links, even though you can't see them when the bracelet is on. It is worth mentioning that the link sizes aren't exactly the same (vintage 1171's may be a little different as well). For the same number of links, the US is noticeably longer.
(Note the longer length per the same # of links, Omega is on the right)
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In order to size it to fit me, I had to take out all of the removable links on the 6:00 side, so I'd take his advice and wait for his MkII if your wrist is smaller than mine. This caused a fit issue for me since the clasp wouldn't center on my wrist, but removing another link would have put it too far the other way. I moved the 6:00 side of the clasp down one hole on the micro adjust, but I feel like this is less secure.
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My other big complaint about the bracelet was that I had a problem with one of the friction pins, which destroyed my cheap bracelet sizing tool, and caused me to mark up the pin hole on the bracelet pretty bad. All of the other pins were fine, but YMMV.
The clasps are pretty similar, but this finish is different. The clasp cover is maybe slightly nicer on the Omega, but not by much. Both close with a solid click and feel secure.
The best part of the bracelet for me is the end links. For the life of me, I don't know why Omega can't sort this out. The US ones fit like a dream, and were easy to install. The bracelet feels solid, and captures the overall look and feel of my 1171.
(Final Product, Omega 1171 with Uncle Seiko endlinks)
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So, the big question: which would I buy? Well, that is tough. $450 is stupid for this bracelet, but it was worth it to make an almost-perfect watch perfect to me. If you can make it fit, and you have the same issues with the modern speedy bracelet, I wouldn't hesitate for a moment to order the Uncle Seiko. If I could get the fit right, I would probably swap the clasp cover for the Omega logo because I'm shallow like that. I prefer the solid center links, and it feels slightly more solid than the Omega. As it is, I put the Omega 1171 back on, but with the Uncle Seiko end links.
TLDR, if you think $450+ is too much to pay for the Omega 1171, and you can get it to fit, buy the Uncle Seiko.
 

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this was on all the links when tapped
 

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Bummer. I will see if I can get the links to work. The pictures were HUGE in the preview, so I'll try to resize and repost.
 

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Thanks for the review. Do you know what US' plan for the MK2? Shorter links? More removable links?
On the Omega forum, he mentioned that he would have a version with more removable links, and cautioned people with wrists smaller than 6 1/2 from ordering until that one is out. I was on the last link on the 6:00 side, and I prefer to have the clasp sit closer to 6 than 12 if it isn't centered, so even with my wrist, one more link would have been better.

The links are almost the same size, but the difference compounds over the length of the bracelet. Older 1171's may have had different dimensions, or he may have just found it easier to manufacture them this way. The look isn't any different, but the size can be.
 

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The modern Speedmaster bracelet is an absolute mockery of the watch. After trying it on cordovan, suede, and OEM nylon, I think I've finally found the right solution with the JB Champion rerelease. But the correct answer has always been "not the OEM bracelet". It's heavy, ugly, and is a 90s parts-bin item grafted to an iconic watch.

If I hadn't gone Forstner, I might well have checked this out. Thank you so much for the review!
 

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The modern Speedmaster bracelet is an absolute mockery of the watch. After trying it on cordovan, suede, and OEM nylon, I think I've finally found the right solution with the JB Champion rerelease. But the correct answer has always been "not the OEM bracelet". It's heavy, ugly, and is a 90s parts-bin item grafted to an iconic watch.

If I hadn't gone Forstner, I might well have checked this out. Thank you so much for the review!
The funny part is that I have a 1610 Speedy style bracelet on my SMPc, and I really like it. Somehow the slightly smaller endlink and clasp dimensions work great on that watch.
 

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I’ve been looking at the uncle seiko, I bought my speedmaster on leather. It looks great
 

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I’ve been looking at the uncle seiko, I bought my speedmaster on leather. It looks great
 

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I just received my Uncle Seiko 1171 and damn it's looking good! Excellent fit and finish and flawless polishing. Clasp feels very secure. Very happy I did NOT buy the flimsy Omega 1171, US for one sixth of the price does an darn good job. Sizing it this afternoon, pics to come.
 

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Perfect timing. Thank you for the review as I had been looking at this bracelet. Same issue as you, the modern Speedy bracelet just doesn't suit the watch for me. I wanted the older style look of the 1171 but didn't think the price of the Omega bracelet was worth it and I'd read too many issues with the end links not quite fitting correctly.

Also good to get confirmation that I need to wait for the shorter version. I'm on the cusp of the fit for the current version but didn't want to risk it. I've been in touch with US and they advised the shorter version is probably a couple of months away.
 

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Yeah, my relationship with the 1171 is weird. At times, I think that it is flawless, and at other times I think that I'd be annoyed if a bracelet that feels like that was on a $200 Seiko. I still think I would have gotten the Uncle Seiko if I hadn't already bought the OEM 1171 and been happy with it, but I also appreciate having an Omega bracelet on my Omega watch. Totally not worth the $350 difference, but since when is "value" important when it comes to this expensive hobby.
 

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OP:
Glad you like your US 1171, it does look good!

Wearing my speedy on an original 1171 (purchased long before the Uncle Seiko option was available)




I can’t wait for the flat link bracelet...!!!!


Cheers,
Rob
https://www.instagram.com/buchmann.69/
 

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i am waiting on mine as well, right now it is held hostage in some warehouse due to the corona virus. Patience is a virtue, they say, but i can't wait to try it on.
 

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Have you folks using the US bracelets noticed any scratching on the case sides or the underside of the lugs?
 

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My other big complaint about the bracelet was that I had a problem with one of the friction pins, which destroyed my cheap bracelet sizing tool, and caused me to mark up the pin hole on the bracelet pretty bad. All of the other pins were fine, but YMMV.
Thanks for the review, timely as well - I just got mine yesterday, and experienced the same trouble removing the pins that you did. They seem EXTREMELY tight, and I didn't want to force the issue yet. How did you resolve it?
 

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Thanks for the review, timely as well - I just got mine yesterday, and experienced the same trouble removing the pins that you did. They seem EXTREMELY tight, and I didn't want to force the issue yet. How did you resolve it?
I put a little bicycle chain lube in the pin, but I'm not sure how much it helped. In the end, I just kept working at it and eventually it came out, but I wen't through all of my spare pins to do it. I plan on getting a better sizing tool anyways, but that part was disappointing.
 
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