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Upcoming Orients, Orient Aqua Terra?

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Doesn't the new OS GMT look like an Aqua Terra? Beautiful!!

The Orient STI M-Force looks nice as well, they got rid of the bumpy bezel and to a flushed one (on the top size) which I prefer...
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Any caseback pictures?
Any info of movement (40P63)?
Any caseback pictures?
Any info of movement (40P63)?
I think this was just a typo: in fact it's the 40P53.



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Michael
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Solid or folded end links?
Solid. I haven't seen any new Orient Star models with folding links for at least 5 years now, maybe even longer. I'd be kind of shocked to see that on an Orient Star these days. Note: this does not apply to standard Orient, non-Star, models.

The bracelet is relatively heavy for a non-dive watch and that is keeping with the watch itself, which is also has somewhat more mass/size than pictures would suggest. In pictures, the case has the general form of a dress watch, almost like the Standard Date, but in person, you see that it has more mass, bigger dimensions generally (not just wider, but higher, big lugs, etc). I first tried a fairly conventional 21mm/18mm leather strap, but it looked (and felt) rather puny compared to the watch. YMMV, but I think, if one is going leather strap, to get something thick thick and something that maintains a lot of thickness out to the strap edges.

This size/mass was a surprise for me and is actually what clinched the deal for me on the new Orient GMTs. For some time, I've been looking for something that generally resembles a standard, classic watch but intended for more active use, think Rolex Explorer (I, not II) in idea if not execution, as in no way is this a clone/homage to that.

By the same token, if one is looking for something that will easily fit under a dress shirt cuff, it might be wise to check it out somehow in person if possible. Again, the pictures provided by Orient don't really convey, to me at least, the actually size/mass of the watch.

FWIW, I was wavering between this and the Grand Seiko GMT (SBGM027/027), which costs about 4x as this. I've also been jonesing for a mechanical Grand Seiko, but apart from the obviously primo finishing/movement on the Grand Seiko, I liked the Orient Star a lot better in appearance, dimensions, and so forth.

The 21mm lugs are the only semi-nit I have. I say semi because while that makes strap issues a little problematic, the proportions all work very well. And Orient Star isn't particularly shy about 21mm lugs, I've got at least one other with the same lug width.

FWIW, I have a Standard Date, clearly a cousin to this watch, and it has 22mm lugs although a smaller watch. I always thought the lugs were a little wide for that watch for my tastes.
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I think this was just a typo: in fact it's the 40P53.



Cheers
Michael
I didn't notice it until this picture, but I see a 3 prong jewel retaining clip like on the high end Seiko movements vice the 2 prong style on the lower end ones. That is definitely very cool, thanks for posting this, makes me appreciate the watch even more as a stealth value prop, sort of the reason I focus on JDM Seiko/Orient in my collecting.

Makes me wonder about the provenance of the movement. My understanding is that the movement in the current Orient Star chronograph is at base a 6S28, high end Seiko chronograph, I wonder if the 40P53 shares DNA with some higher end Seiko GMT model.
I think this was just a typo: in fact it's the 40P53.

Cheers
Michael
Thanks!
Thats because I did't find any info of 40P63.
Seems that some in specs is wrong info.
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Makes me wonder about the provenance of the movement. My understanding is that the movement in the current Orient Star chronograph is at base a 6S28, high end Seiko chronograph, I wonder if the 40P53 shares DNA with some higher end Seiko GMT model.
This would seem sensible given that the high end movement for Seiko watches are made by Seiko Epson (which is the holding company that owns Orient).
For those of you that own the new GMT model and also an electronic scale would really appreciate if you could weigh it up for me , I"m very curious how much it weighs for the size, I like it but am a bit worried about the weight, I cannot stand watches that are too heavy (literally, old wrist injury from playing soccer in high-school).

Thanks!
I didn't notice it until this picture, but I see a 3 prong jewel retaining clip like on the high end Seiko movements vice the 2 prong style on the lower end ones. That is definitely very cool, thanks for posting this, makes me appreciate the watch even more as a stealth value prop, sort of the reason I focus on JDM Seiko/Orient in my collecting.

Makes me wonder about the provenance of the movement. My understanding is that the movement in the current Orient Star chronograph is at base a 6S28, high end Seiko chronograph, I wonder if the 40P53 shares DNA with some higher end Seiko GMT model.
You've made me curious with this post, went thru the boxes and checked each and every one of my Orient Stars , all of them (7!) including an older non-hacking model, have this three prong jewel thingamajig.
I like the GMT the best.
I don't prefer open dials on cheaper watches.
I've only recently been introduced to Orient, so this is the first new edition I've seen. Really love the look, but prices are still predictably high. Is there any experience with how long after new collections are released that we start seeing more ingress into North America and pricing that is more typical of other Orient Star lines?
For those of you that own the new GMT model and also an electronic scale would really appreciate if you could weigh it up for me , I"m very curious how much it weighs for the size, I like it but am a bit worried about the weight, I cannot stand watches that are too heavy (literally, old wrist injury from playing soccer in high-school).

Thanks!
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For those of you that own the new GMT model and also an electronic scale would really appreciate if you could weigh it up for me , I"m very curious how much it weighs for the size, I like it but am a bit worried about the weight, I cannot stand watches that are too heavy (literally, old wrist injury from playing soccer in high-school).

Thanks!
I don't have an electronic scale, but we have a pretty accurate mechanical kitchen one. Also, I've got the watch on a leather strap, which probably makes it lighter.

Anyhow, I get 110 grams.
Have you dealt with Higuchi before? I emailed him on his site asking if he had the LE version (grey dial + green hands) available, and he responded to me a minute later stating it was in stock for 880USD and send money via PayPal if interested. Once I sent payment, I realized that I put the wrong model number in the PayPal payment but still mentioned the grey dial + green hands.

I quickly emailed him to confirm that I was getting the LE version of the watch, and not the blue dial version. It's been 30 minutes and he still hasn't gotten back to me yet. Should I be worried that he now has my money and I'm not 100% sure which version of the watch I'm getting????

I wouldn't buy the OS GMT there. Just ask Chino-Watch, Higuchi or Seiya. They should be able to sell the WZ0071DJ (blue dial) easily.

I just tried to order the WZ0081DJ limited edition. Chino said they don't carry it because only Orient Prestige shops would sell them.
Even Higuchi didn't succeed in ordering it (he asked for 960$ for the ltd.ed.). Seiya offered me one of the ltd.ed. WZ0081DJ for the same amount as this ebay seller.

It's okay for the ltd.ed. (which seems quite rare) and Seiya has no brick and mortar store for his living. But you should find the blue dial version for at least 100$ less at a reputable seller.

All of the aforementioned Shops are highly recommendable.

hth
Michael
Have you dealt with Higuchi before? I emailed him on his site asking if he had the LE version (grey dial + green hands) available, and he responded to me a minute later stating it was in stock for 880USD and send money via PayPal if interested. Once I sent payment, I realized that I put the wrong model number in the PayPal payment but still mentioned the grey dial + green hands.

I quickly emailed him to confirm that I was getting the LE version of the watch, and not the blue dial version. It's been 30 minutes and he still hasn't gotten back to me yet. Should I be worried that he now has my money and I'm not 100% sure which version of the watch I'm getting????
Yes, I have. He's a good guy!

But I didn't tell the whole store. When I asked Higuchi about the WZ0081DJ limited edition, he instantly said yes, he could order it for me. So I sent him the money.
After an hour or so I received the money back via paypal and he mailed me:

"Im really sorry that I ordered to orient japan now, but It already all sold, only few shop can be carry more pieces… So I just refunded, please for give me"

He said, he could only order the blue and black dial versions. I asked about the price of the blue one (the same), but I didn't order, because I wanted to give Seiya a try. Again I made clear that I wanted the WZ0081DJ l.e. He answered that he could order the limited edition.
I paypaled the money (which was considerable more than 880$ :roll: ) after I had received a paypal invoice with the correct model designation.

I felt happy but was still somewhat unsure what I would see when I opened the package at the customs bureau. In fact it was the right watch. Great!

But you have to make clear what you want. I think Higuchi wasn't aware that he couldn't order the watch. I don't know, why Seiya could receive it.

While contacting Higuchi (in the last couple of years) or Seiya (in the last weeks) I often had to send mails twice. I didn't get an answer at the first time. Maybe they are overly busy. But I don't care so much, they are both great vendors.

Again: Faults could happen - but ask twice to make clear what you will receive!

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Michael
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I've only recently been introduced to Orient, so this is the first new edition I've seen. Really love the look, but prices are still predictably high. Is there any experience with how long after new collections are released that we start seeing more ingress into North America and pricing that is more typical of other Orient Star lines?
As long as it's a JDM model, you will not find it for sale with any AD outside of Japan. The internationally available Stars are featured on: ORIENTSTAR | ORIENT WATCHNot every Star released in Japan 'goes international', in fact I'd daresay the majority does not. And even if they do, the availability can be very poor.
^^^Beautiful!
I very much want to get this piece. But can't stomach the current retail.
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