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Upgrade/Change from SARB033

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#1 ·
I'm a one watch at a time person, and I've started to get the itch to make a change. I've been wearing a SARB033 for the last 4 years and have no complaints, just looking for change. Also, I have always worn black dials, so I'm considering, but not committed to, white this time.

So far, a lot of my online browsing has just served to remind me what a great watch the SARB is. However, there are few things I would like different. On the dress/sport/tool spectrum, I'd like to move a smidge further towards the sport/tool side. Would kind of like to have a screw down crown...don't need the extra water resistance normally associated with that, but I've had the crown snag on a pocket a time or two and being screwed down seems like a nice feature.

Other requirements are:
  • $1,000 or less
  • Must be on a bracelet
  • 36-38 mm (wrist is 6.75 inches)
  • Pretty sure I don't won't full Arabic indices. Some numbers could be okay, but not all 12.
  • Date optional, might actually like going without it this time, but no strong feelings either way
So far my frontrunner is the Christopher Ward C63 Sealander, white dial. The original 39 mm is over my stated size range, and the 36 mm probably a better fit. Too bad I like the 39 mm dial better with it's little bit of extra color.

Other watches I've browsed include the Traska Commuter (not currently in stock). I've always admired Sinn, but it's out of budget and I've drifted into the camp that thinks the hands are too short. What else should I be looking at that would feel equal or better than my SARB?

For sizing reference, I've included a wrist shot of the SARB. Disclaimer, it's entirely possible that in a week or two the urge passes and I decide I don't need anything new.

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#4 ·
Sinn 556?

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#13 ·
Don't write off the Presage range.

I'd be happy to buy your SARB when you have to divest yourself of it.

Had one, but sold it a while ago, now wish that I hadn't.
Funny you should mention it, I have both a 033 and a 035 and decided a while ago that I don't need both. I'm keeping the 035 and I've been meaning to list the black one but just haven't gotten around to it yet.
 
#10 ·
If you’ve admired the Sinn you should get it. I’ve had mine for 11yrs, still an almost daily driver. It’s on the H bracelet but just got leather that will also fit my new watch. Watch looks great and works great. That simple dial design is so efficient…I can do a quick glance down and tell the time where as on my new watch it takes me a bit to figure it out (I have a speedy now, dial is much busier so maybe not a good comparison). I’m not bored with it, I only got a new watch because the wife got it for me as gift (I got to pick and shop which is half the fun!). I’m also not planning on getting rid of it…the Sinn is a keeper.
 
#11 ·
You probably won’t find a significant upgrade within your price range.

You may need to consider the 1500+ range to get something noticeably better than the sarb.

The next “watch crush” will likely find you organically. If it doesn’t, then I wouldn’t try forcing it.
 
#12 ·
A few different straps for your SARB might quiet the urge for a different watch. Mine mostly stays on a Zuludiver padded sailcoth. Leather, rubber, perlon, etc, etc all work well.

EDIT: If you don't already have other straps...

Otherwise, the CW Sealander is a great choice as are the Seiko Alpinists, if you favor Seiko.
 
#14 ·
Sealander is worth the upgrade for the bracelet alone. Seiko bracelets generally are crap, but the SARB is a particularly egregious one. Alternatively, there is a left field option: make an SPB King Seiko. Don't buy one (they're still about $1300, so over budget) make one.

The case and dial are $600-ish. You could use AM "Grand Seiko style" hands which will look better than the OEM ones. The SPB King Seiko uses a 28.5mm dial, so any standard Seiko mod hands will drop right in. NH38 movements are not expensive. You could build one (without the bracelet) For maybe $850, including the cost of having a watchmaker put it all together. The bracelet would be another $300, so still over budget, but less over?

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#15 ·
My vote goes towards the C63 , seems pretty versatile if you fancy wearing it on a strap at later stage i.e can dresse up or down and has that sporty explorer vibe. Would look pretty cool on NATO me thinks.
Can't see much in this price range or actually significantly more beating it on quality either.
 
#18 ·
Any of the Orient Stars (usually above 400) would be a nice change.

Loads of quirky things - power reserves, open hearts... If you go on the dress route with them, just make sure you're comfortable with butterfly clasps... I hate these things. Sadly everybody is putting them on dress watches now.
 
#23 ·
It's a smidge over budget, but in your shoes I would order a Serica 5303. Choosing this model would be easy for me; choosing between the black vs white dials would be difficult for me.

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I like that you're keeping open the possibility of doing nothing.
 
#24 ·
The Sealander is a great option because it will give you a nice upgrade in finishing and bracelet. CW exceeds its price point, like the sarb did.
Keep in mind if Seiko came out with the sarb today it would be $700. So a Seiko for $1k will give you little more than you already have.
 
#25 ·
Don’t let the 39mm size of the Sealander put you off. If I’m not wrong the difference between the SARB033 and Sealander lug to lug sizes is just 1mm or so. I think the Sealander comes in at 45.5mm whilst the SARB033 comes in at 44mm. Should still be a great fit for your wrist.
 
#29 ·
Even a preowned Sinn 556 is well beyond your $1000 budget. However, the King Seiko can be had at roughly $1300. Diameter of 37mm, no-date, silky smooth 7-link bracelet that glitters in the light. The black dial reference is SPB281.
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Image of brown dial SPB245 from Fratello.

The biggest con is the lack of lume which took me some getting used to.