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So little activity in the "buster" section of each brand so I thought I would continue to post here. If it's against the rules then I guess a mod could move it.

Vintage omega geneve 18k gold plated;







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Well, Omega certainly made a geneve in that case with a 600 movement, I know I had one but I would say Re-dial as I've never seen a black dialled one and the white hands don't belong.

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Thanks Matt! :)

I guess I shouldnt just say "fake?" because even if its not. Your response is alsot he type of response that Im looking for. If the hands dont belong etc.

found another one that looks like this one including hands here: Authentic Vintage Mens Omega Geneve Automatic Cal. 2852 W/ Date, C. 1970s

It could well be the original hands but I would have expected them to be gold coloured, the white marks on the cardinal points just dont seem crisp enough to me for it to be an original dial.

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But could this be redial? A really perfect one? :/
He claims that its Incredible hard to find this watch in in this condition.

He only auctions near mint ones.

....but since in a beginner mint/re-painted looks the same in my eyes. He has a splid trackrecord thogh sale wise.
 

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It could well be the original hands but I would have expected them to be gold coloured, the white marks on the cardinal points just dont seem crisp enough to me for it to be an original dial.

Matt
The lighting/camera might help I guess.

Im going to send him a email witha few questions and see what he claims and then double check here =)

found another one through google that looked like that one that said "Applied silver baton hour markers" maybe something like that then...
 

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redialed dial, and relumed hands
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redialed dial, and relumed hands
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Redialed means a completely new one right? Thanks for the response! Will pass on this one. I dont know what I would do without watch forums thats for sure. I have ordered a watch book with a solid ammount of basic info. Are there any books or anything that explains more how to spot fakes? I assume you guys just use the knowledge collected after years of beinginterrsted in something. I guess typing in the numbers on the Watch on some site to get info on what its supposed to be compared to what youre looking at is the first step. But more specifics would be nice. Any books that adresses this? Sorry for spelling, typing on my phone
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for sure the redial. if you look closer the "swiss made" is not equal distance from the 6 bar.
As a non native english speaker would you mind explaining the last part? What you mean and how its suppoed to look compared to this one. I understand that the "swiss made" distance from something isnt as its supoed to be. So I can keep an eye on that in the future.
 

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as far as I see it the distance between the word "swiss" and the 6 hour bar and the bar and word "made" is not the same. It looks like "made is almost touching it. But thats just me.. i am no near an expert. Compare it with the picture in the second link you posted and you will see what i am talking about and also the difference.
As a non native english speaker would you mind explaining the last part? What you mean and how its suppoed to look compared to this one. I understand that the "swiss made" distance from something isnt as its supoed to be. So I can keep an eye on that in the future.
 

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Redialed means a completely new one right? Thanks for the response! Will pass on this one. I dont know what I would do without watch forums thats for sure. I have ordered a watch book with a solid ammount of basic info. Are there any books or anything that explains more how to spot fakes? I assume you guys just use the knowledge collected after years of beinginterrsted in something. I guess typing in the numbers on the Watch on some site to get info on what its supposed to be compared to what youre looking at is the first step. But more specifics would be nice. Any books that adresses this? Sorry for spelling, typing on my phone
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Hi
No a new dial is normally termed 'NOS' New Old Stock.
A 'redial' is an original dial cleaned off then re-painted. In worst case a different name or design is added.
Yours was probably original to that watch, but re-painted,

Adam
 
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Hmm - really hard to tell. To begin with, the one from the link the OP supplied seems to be all genuine to me. Everything looks good. The one the OP is interested in could have been refurbished - I agree with Busmatt's observation that the white caps on the quarter index markers just don't look right. The hands, however, I believe to be correct - if there was white on the indexes, Omega used to use white hands, too. Black-lacquered dials were not uncommon, either - I couldn't find the exact same model in "Omega - Journey Through Time", but there are several other gold or gilt Genèves with black lacquer dials.

I cannot quite make out the reference number - it might help to identify it exactly and check on the web for more and better information. (Keep in mind, though, that you can find several dial/hands combinations under the same reference number.)

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Thank you! Indeed, it is. This example has the golden dial with black indexes, and if you look closely, "Swiss Made" looks off-center, too. Maybe this is an effect of the angle of photography? Here's another one for sale.

conclusio: if I had the money to split with, I'd go for the watch shown in the first post. Its dial may have been touched up, but it is beautiful and looks genuine to me, in every detail.

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Thanks for all the responses as usual. I passed on it though this time.


However, it did open my mind up for a square'ish watch. Something I havent thought about before.
 
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