Awesome work. Thank you. I've downloaded already and will check for updates. Just a great reference. Cheers.Calling all owners, collectors and/or aficionados of the Seiko World Time watches from the 1960's and 1970's...
I recently started collecting various watches in this series and have spent a lot of time researching the various models and details. In my brief time with these watches, I have found a lot of "for sale" listings (most in fact) that include aftermarket dials, are parts-bin specials mixing model and generation parts, or in some way or another are not entirely original / accurate. For a 50-ish year old watch, that is to be expected and often times refurbishing one involves some aftermarket or replacement requirements.
In an attempt to organize my research on this series, I am working on a Google Doc, broken into section by model / generation. I am hoping this will be a gathering point for as much accurate information as possible about these watches, particularly their original details - and help out other current and future collectors / owners. I am gathering images from wherever I can find them (google, ebay, etc), and this is all purely for educational purposes.
I am hoping there are at least a few people out there that share my interest in these watches and may be able to contribute to the accuracy and completeness of this document.
Here's the document link - I have enabled comments - please feel free to comment here or PM me.
Seiko World Time Models
Seiko World Time Watches 1964 - 1979 Introduction Commonality across all generations Determining year and month of manufacture Known non-original parts and combinations 1st Generation - 6217-7000 Case Bracelet Dial & Hands Common Features Variations Bezel Common Features Variations Case Back Var...docs.google.com
Vintage Seiko World Time - Collectors / Owners
Calling all owners, collectors and/or aficionados of the Seiko World Time watches from the 1960's and 1970's...
I recently started collecting various watches in this series and have spent a lot of time researching the various models and details. In my brief time with these watches, I have found a lot of "for sale" listings (most in fact) that include aftermarket dials, are parts-bin specials mixing model and generation parts, or in some way or another are not entirely original / accurate. For a 50-ish year old watch, that is to be expected and often times refurbishing one involves some aftermarket or replacement requirements.
In an attempt to organize my research on this series, I am working on a Google Doc, broken into section by model / generation. I am hoping this will be a gathering point for as much accurate information as possible about these watches, particularly their original details - and help out other current and future collectors / owners. I am gathering images from wherever I can find them (google, ebay, etc), and this is all purely for educational purposes.
I am hoping there are at least a few people out there that share my interest in these watches and may be able to contribute to the accuracy and completeness of this document.
Here's the document link - I have enabled comments - please feel free to comment here or PM me.
docs.google.com
UPDATE: this document has started to transform into a website, here:
I recently started collecting various watches in this series and have spent a lot of time researching the various models and details. In my brief time with these watches, I have found a lot of "for sale" listings (most in fact) that include aftermarket dials, are parts-bin specials mixing model and generation parts, or in some way or another are not entirely original / accurate. For a 50-ish year old watch, that is to be expected and often times refurbishing one involves some aftermarket or replacement requirements.
In an attempt to organize my research on this series, I am working on a Google Doc, broken into section by model / generation. I am hoping this will be a gathering point for as much accurate information as possible about these watches, particularly their original details - and help out other current and future collectors / owners. I am gathering images from wherever I can find them (google, ebay, etc), and this is all purely for educational purposes.
I am hoping there are at least a few people out there that share my interest in these watches and may be able to contribute to the accuracy and completeness of this document.
Here's the document link - I have enabled comments - please feel free to comment here or PM me.
Seiko World Time Models
Seiko World Time Watches 1964 - 1979 Introduction Commonality across all generations Determining year and month of manufacture Known non-original parts and combinations 1st Generation - 6217-7000 Case Bracelet Dial & Hands Common Features Variations Bezel Common Features Variations Case Back Var...
docs.google.com
UPDATE: this document has started to transform into a website, here:
Vintage Seiko World Time Watches
The website dedicated to all things Vintage, Seiko and World Time
seikoworldtime.com
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All great info and appreciate all the work you put into it. Of interest, the lug adaptors for the World Timers were different from the One-Button Chronographs...a detail I didn't notice till I saw all your pics.
If there's any suggestion for a new section it might be one for modern re-issues. As far as I know, the 5M85-0AF0 SUN067P1 Kinetic (I've since sold mine) was the closest non-official reissue of these watches by Seiko:
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-Brian
If there's any suggestion for a new section it might be one for modern re-issues. As far as I know, the 5M85-0AF0 SUN067P1 Kinetic (I've since sold mine) was the closest non-official reissue of these watches by Seiko:
-Brian
Also, there is at least one other modern World Time from SEIKO that I have seen:
Both black and white dial variants.
IMO they are missing an opportunity to make a proper automatic (not quartz) version.
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Thank you! I've updated my info on that model. Really appreciate - this is a very hard model to track down! I have a Dec 1967 case back documented - so no proof it ever was produced in 1968.
On the black/gray sunburst dial, I am intrigued. I have a 6217-7000 black dial with the white and yellow 24 hour ring. I didn't know what to call that color - but one of the scans calls it "Yellow". I also have clear pictures of the white and burnt red/orange 24 hour ring on the black dial - initially I thought this was introduced in the 6117-601X, when the GMT hand went red - but I have found this dial on the 6217-7010 and the 6117-601X - and those dials are otherwise very different. Also, this one is listed in their catalog scan.
Hold on, actually you can see them both here in the same photo:
Per Microsoft Translate: 5) SEIKO World Time / 17 jewel dial shot colored yellow and white to make the 24-hour display easier to understand.
For some reason the translator is not giving me the wording for #7.
Here's the reddish one in the a catalog shot from the 6117-601X models:
And these seem legit on the 6217-7010:
Its possible the yellow color is a faded red color - but I currently believe they are actually two separate dials. TBD
That photo is very interesting! Showing the 1st, 3rd, and 4th generation World Times all together. That definitely shows there are separate yellow and more reddish versions, but whether both were used on 6217-7010s is another question.Thank you! I've updated my info on that model. Really appreciate - this is a very hard model to track down! I have a Dec 1967 case back documented - so no proof it ever was produced in 1968.
On the black/gray sunburst dial, I am intrigued. I have a 6217-7000 black dial with the white and yellow 24 hour ring. I didn't know what to call that color - but one of the scans calls it "Yellow". I also have clear pictures of the white and burnt red/orange 24 hour ring on the black dial - initially I thought this was introduced in the 6117-601X, when the GMT hand went red - but I have found this dial on the 6217-7010 and the 6117-601X - and those dials are otherwise very different. Also, this one is listed in their catalog scan.
Hold on, actually you can see them both here in the same photo:
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Per Microsoft Translate: 5) SEIKO World Time / 17 jewel dial shot colored yellow and white to make the 24-hour display easier to understand.
For some reason the translator is not giving me the wording for #7.
Here's the reddish one in the a catalog shot from the 6117-601X models:
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And these seem legit on the 6217-7010:
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Its possible the yellow color is a faded red color - but I currently believe they are actually two separate dials. TBD
Here's a couple pics of mine. It's got a standard "horseshoe" caseback. I'd describe the color of the nighttime portion of the ring as bronze.
From the Hub City Vintage sales post:
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