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I'm posting this thread in the hope someone reading this might be interested in this watch. I've managed to find out a few things about the Tudor, reference 7021/0. Purchased new in 1972, Geneve, International Hotel, Rolex AD. Serial # 7393xx. Original dial, hands, bezel and crown. Crown is worn, literally beveled. Original plastic crystal is replaced, have original. It has a roulette date wheel, alternating red or black numbers. Watch serviced and oiled. Head only, pictured bracelet is aftermarket. This watch has been in the Family since its purchase date.

I'm aware many of these watches are affected by the dreaded "dial rot". My cousin is positive the dial, hands, crystal, bezel and crown are as purchased. To preserve this timepiece it's in the process of a service by a professional watchmaker whom I have entrusted for years. At this time have replaced the crystal with a NOS crystal while keeping the original crystal. It's my hope i haven't affected the originality of the watch by replacing the crystal, it was so damaged and worn I was concerned about it breaking and affecting the dial or hands.

I believe it was manufactured in 1968 or 69 caseback stamped 1V / 68, is a 25 jewel movement as opposed to the 17 jewel movement Submariners sold in Canada during this time period. The owner is here in Canada for a few more days, if anyone can think of any information I should gleam from him prior to his departure please drop me a line. It's not often we have the opportunity to get information first hand on watches nearing the 50 year anniversary.

Thanking in advance anyone who can shed a little more light on this Tudor and conversely, wish any of the above listed information is a help to other collectors.

Best regards,

fraser
 

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Hi,

Are you trying to sell this piece or buy this piece?
Couldn't really figure it out from the thread :p
I currently own the watch, having it serviced and am in the process of finding information. Honestly have no clue what to do with it, should i wear it or perhaps forward it on to someone who cares about it. To me, it's kinda old and beat up, to a collector, who knows?
 

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I think you should wear it- it's a really good vintage diver. Beat up? No. Light scratches on a tool-watch prove that the watch wasn't only something to show off, and that someone made good use of its potential as a tool-watch.
Remember, you're in the Vintage forum, and here we happen to like watches with nicely aged lume and visible but subtle signs of everyday wear. This Tudor has all of that.
 
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Nothing wrong with replacing the crystal, especially with a NOS replacement. If I were lucky enough to have one of those, I'd wear it every day. If the faded bezel and the dimmed luminous hands and indices bother you, it would probably be worth getting a whole new Tudor Submariner or Pelagos. There's a lot of history in your watch, and it would be a shame to get rid of it with new hands, dial, and/or bezel.

Enjoy and thanks for sharing!
 

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I think you should wear it- it's a really good vintage diver. Beat up? No. Light scratches on a tool-watch prove that the watch wasn't only something to show off, and that someone made good use of its potential as a tool-watch.
Remember, you're in the Vintage forum, and here we happen to like watches with nicely aged lume and visible but subtle signs of everyday wear. This Tudor has all of that.
I agree, to this end I have replaced all seals and had it pressure tested. I pick up the slightly reconditioned watch tomorrow, looking forward to seeing the dial finally. The reason it's posted here is for you guys, I know what you are all about, thought someone here may be interested. The original owner (my cousin) is a retired master carpenter, he wore this watch working for 20 years, sailed with it, explains all. There is no intention on my part to refurbish as new, none whatsoever.
 
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Nothing wrong with replacing the crystal, especially with a NOS replacement. If I were lucky enough to have one of those, I'd wear it every day. If the faded bezel and the dimmed luminous hands and indices bother you, it would probably be worth getting a whole new Tudor Submariner or Pelagos. There's a lot of history in your watch, and it would be a shame to get rid of it with new hands, dial, and/or bezel.

Enjoy and thanks for sharing!
The worn look to the watch doesn't bother me, i take it for what it is, a nicely patina'd Tudor. Not going to change anymore on the watch, will try it out and if I want to buy something else, it will be sold. I'm an old guy, if I want to see a patina - all that's required is to look in the mirror!
 

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It is a very, very nice watch.
No doubt to that!
 
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If by "interested", you mean interested in seeing the watch and learning its history, you are in the right place. If by "interested" you mean buying it, please be aware that this is the wrong forum. We have a "Sales Corner" for that. Any "For Sale" posts here will be deleted so, if that wasn't your intention, please tread carefully to avoid misunderstandings. Thanks.

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I would NEVER, EVER sell that watch.

But that's just me.

I'd wear that thing every day of the week. It ****s all over anything modern if you ask me.
 

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Nothing wrong with replacing the crystal, especially with a NOS replacement. If I were lucky enough to have one of those, I'd wear it every day. If the faded bezel and the dimmed luminous hands and indices bother you, it would probably be worth getting a whole new Tudor Submariner or Pelagos. There's a lot of history in your watch, and it would be a shame to get rid of it with new hands, dial, and/or bezel.

Enjoy and thanks for sharing!
There isn't a Tudor Submariner in production anymore- there's the Heritage Black Bay and the new Pelagos. The Black Bay is essentially a "reinterpretation" of the old Tudor Sub. The Pelagos is better though- has the new Tudor in-house calibre, while the Black Bay still uses an ETA 2824. But I guess it won't take them long to replace the 2824 with the new movement of their own design.
 
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mkws, yeah, I hedged my bets by putting the "or Pelagos" in there. I'm not particularly familiar with the current Tudor lineup. Thanks for the clarification.
 

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If by "interested", you mean interested in seeing the watch and learning its history, you are in the right place. If by "interested" you mean buying it, please be aware that this is the wrong forum. We have a "Sales Corner" for that. Any "For Sale" posts here will be deleted so, if that wasn't your intention, please tread carefully to avoid misunderstandings. Thanks.

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Let's nor jump to conclusions here, if the watch was for sale I would certainly list it through another medium other that WUS. Merely showing the watch to other interested parties. I have received a few thoughtful responses from my original post, my thanks to the posters. I have reread my posts, nowhere do I see any request for value nor any suggestions it was for sale. It was mentioned if it didn't "work" for me I would likely sell the watch, personally do not see that as a plea for someone to purchase the watch.

I'm aware of the rules and guidelines on this forum, and follow them as all members should.
 

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A poor quality image of the watch with newly installed gaskets and new crystal.
 

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You should keep it. The blue is a more wanted version we can't say value on the forum but since Tudor restarted making the snowflake the value has went up on the vintage. Once service there as good or better than the new. The crystal can be polished with polywatch use that on mine. I have a older one like yours none quick set date do the move hands to the twelve back to the eight to set the date. Mine had a service dial and hand set when I got it. The top hat crystal as they are called was replaced when I had Rolex service it when I first got it this one can still pass a pressure test for a watch made in the early 1970's a photo of it's younger brother. Nice watch like I said the blue is more sought after. And here is a link with some info
http://www.deskdivers.com/Site/Snowflake.html
 

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Looks absolutely brilliant with a new crystal. Enjoy it!
 

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Looks absolutely brilliant with a new crystal. Enjoy it!
Thank you for the nice comment. I see you also own a 7021/0 that was manufactured in 1969, does your inner caseback show a stamped xx69?
 

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Looks great, would love to see more pics!

I misread your OP at first thinking you were looking for buyers, just because of the phrase "hope someone reading might be interested in this watch."

Looks like a keeper to me though. Was it the original owner? Curious if he remembered the original price in 1972?
 
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