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Hello there, I am about to buy first vintage watch. I decided to go for vulcain cricket, as I love the brand heritage and alarm complication. I am searching it for solid piece for quite a time. Few days ago I found this one in a mint condition. But I do struggle to identify the year of production and movement (as it is a bit different from all the vintage vulcain movements I found on internet - I made heavy research.) Thanks for any help.
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Welcome to Watchuseek. Since your watch is marked "Vulcain" as well as "MSR" and has a fine adjustment and shockproofing on the balance, it is a "second generation" Cricket movement and was made between 1961 and the early 1980s. Judging by the overall style of the watch, I'd say it was from towards the beginning of that period, i.e. first half of the 1960s. In view of the fact that it still seems to have Radium lume ("RA Swiss Made RA" at the bottom ofthe dial), it is probable that it is from right at the beginning of that period.

The "Cricket" came out in 1947 with the Cal. 120. When Vulcain, Revue Thommen, Phenix and Buser united to form the M.S.R. (Manufactures Suisses Reunies), it was redesignated the Cal. MSR S2 (sometimes MSR S23) - your movement. In the early 1980s, Revue took over, closed the other members down and the movement became the RT 80. Nowadays, it is being made again by Vulcain under the designation V10.

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Dear Hartmut, thanks a lot.

but this is it, i dont think it is MSR S2.

I googled about hundred different vulcain cricket vintage watches and movements.
Any any single one fits the one I found. It looks nearly similar, carries even patent number, but the lettering is different.

this is how look those movements with MSR2 logo:
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then I found MSR62 - but it has msr logo placed slightly higher:
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The watch I found and consider to buy carries MSR logo little down.
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any ideas?
thanks for you opinion
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The exact writing on the movement is probably immaterial and simply reflects changes over time. E.g. on the Zenith Cal. 25x2 series, the older versions have a movement serial number under the balance but the later ones lack this altogether. The mere fact that yours has "MSR" on the bridge shows that it is from after the merger but before Revue practically kicked out the others and used the Cricket movement exclusively in their own watches as the Cal. RT80.

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I love all of my Vulcains especially my cricket. This one looks like a great watch.


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