[Lucidor]

I was curious on the 2403 movement and this watch is very different from the typical Vostok. It's somehow a fusion between the offset seconds hand of a K-43 and the dial of a Pobeda, including the red 12! The crown at 45 degree angle is also unusual for a dress watch. Interestingly it has a threaded case back and the seller claimed the watch was waterproof, but I'm not sure if that is true.

 

[pmwas]

Nice watch :-! The 2403 is just another version of a typical vostok movement. The center second's staff has been removed (with it's famous spring, of course) and the small second's staff has been added (by making other wheel's staff longer). You can even see the place for the center second's spring, so it's done the simpliest way possible.

 

[Seele]

The 2403 movement is still current, I think; I like the look of the watch but I do not think the dial has inherited a lot from Pobedas though. The "Red 12" was a very popular design used by many manufacturers in the first half of the 20th century, even Seiko made one, so it was a "homage" - probably from the 80s - to the Red 12 style really. The Raketa Red 12 homage is interesting as it retains the "railway track" and old-fashioned hands but the numbers are huge though. Still, congratulation for getting this watch, it is a nice looker!

 

[Vaurien]

I like it! Fine watch |>

Do you have a movement shot?

 

[Lucidor]

I like it! Fine watch |>
Do you have a movement shot?

I cannot deny a lady a request. Here are a couple of movement shots:

 

[cavallino33]

Nice the red 12 dial looks great.

 

[Vaurien]

Thank you ;-)

 

[Seele]

Lucidor,

The movement looks a bit funky: noticed the combination of bevelled and unbevelled bridges?

 

[pmwas]

The movement has been made out of two different movements. it's irritating, that some watchmakers don't care to find similar finish, though. Or maybe he just couldn't find proper parts. I think that the barrel bridge must have been replaced due to faulty barrel bearing for example...

 

[michele]

At least in a pair of occasions, this movement has been used for strange "two hands" modifications.

Being the movement based on the 2409 components (in the same way the Poljot 3105 is totally based on 3133 plates, even keeping the holes for the chrono bridges), sellers of those watches added the central seconds hand and pivot (with its blade spring), synchronizing the central hand with the subdial hand, or "opposing" it by 30 seconds (when the central seconds hand was at 0 seconds, the subdial was at 30 and vice versa). So they were sold as "rare watches with two hands" :-d

Volmax officially used this "two hands" layout on its Shturmanskie Sputnik 2007 reissue, although the "central hand" was a rotating disk, not strictly synchronized with the seconds subdial.

The curious think of the Vostok 2403 and Poljot 3105, is that you can see through the hole left by the removed central hand. I have a Moscow Classic Polyarnik with glassback, so i can see my finger pressed on the caseback if i look at the center of the hands! :-d

 

[Lucidor]

So are you suggesting the movement is not correct?

 

[pmwas]

No, no, the movement is all right. That's what a 2403 should look like (except that all plates should have the same finish). But the truth is, that the center second hand drive has been simply removed without further modifications of the barrel bridge, so it is possible to add a center seconds hand by simply adding 3 parts and one screw

Or maybe, to be precise, the movement is not 100% all right, because of the barrel bridge finish. The bridge must have been replaced at some point, but it's just like replacing a part in your car - doesn't make it much worse

 

[RobNJ]

I hate to revive an old thread, but I bought a (different) 2403 today. In the course of research, I came across this old discussion, and then another listing...

...in which Michele's and pmwas's point is illustrated. Drop in center seconds!