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Watch winders or not?

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#1 ·
I had recently serviced my Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Offshore because after winding the watch it wouldn't start up. I asked my watchmaker about it and he said there was some very minor wear on one of the wheels due to watch winder usage. This is why the watch wouldn't engage. What's YOUR opinion on using watch winders?
 
#4 ·
Ugh…I hate reading empirical evidence that contradicts something I do and think is a solid notion😅.

I do use a two watch winder in concert with the three watches I alternate daily, but am definitely not super confident it’s the best path. I’ve only been using the winder for a year or so, so time will tell. Or not. Cause my watches broke😁.
 
#5 ·
I guess my thought is leave the watch sit and not cause wear which with my luck the watch would not start again because the oils are gummed up or take my chances with a winder. Either way, the watch is going to need to be serviced every few years. 6 of one and half dozen of the other comes to mind. I like the convenience of a winder for watches that I don't wear every day. I can't see how the gentle rotation of the winder is any more wear and tear than just wearing the watch.
 
#9 ·
Watches don't wear out when they're not moving. Same with the oils, they won't gum up that fast when not moving. My watchmaker (and it's not the first one I could find) says it's better to let the watches rest when you're not wearing them. Since the winders do the same motion over and over again, it CAN generate some minor wear (enough for my AP to not start anymore. Just my two pennies.
 
#7 ·
Lots, and lots of posts discussing this...

 
#12 ·
I guess my thought is leave the watch sit and not cause wear which with my luck the watch would not start again because the oils are gummed up or take my chances with a winder. Either way, the watch is going to need to be serviced every few years. 6 of one and half dozen of the other comes to mind. I like the convenience of a winder for watches that I don't wear every day. I can't see how the gentle rotation of the winder is any more wear and tear than just wearing the watch.
Watches don't wear out when they're not moving. Same with the oils, they won't gum up that fast when not moving. My watchmaker (and it's not the first one I could find) says it's better to let the watches rest when you're not wearing them. Since the winders do the same motion over and over again, it CAN generate some minor wear (enough for my AP to not start anymore. Just my two pennies.

lol. OP asks for opinions on a subject, receives opinion, and proceeds to explain why the scolicited opinion is wrong.
 
#13 ·
I don’t use them. Maybe it’s just in my head, but I see it as unnecessary wear and tear on the movement. I may go weeks before going back to a particular watch, and I don’t need for it to be continuously running during that time.

That, and I kinda get a kick out of giving the watch I’m going to wear for the next couple of days a fresh start.
 
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I kinda get a kick out of giving the watch I’m going to wear for the next couple of days a fresh start.
I hate having to do that... consequently I love my winder (8 watches on it). Yes it causes additional wear. I'm OK with that in order to minimize having to set my watches. (For the same reason, I like my manual winds to not have dates - minimizes fussiness when setting them.)
 
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#14 ·
A quick answer: Since I don't let the engine of my car run through the night after the car is parked and no longer needed, of course I don't use a watch winder. What doesn't move, doesn't wear out…
 
#20 ·
This is a flawed analogy. Car engines don't need to run all the time. You turn off your car, then you turn it back on. A car engine's purpose isn't to constantly measure something and accurate display the measurement. It just produces energy when you need it to. An automatic watch movement that sits will stop working, and must be wound and reset to serve it's purpose.

Yes, it makes sense that the parts in a watch movement that runs less may last longer before wearing out than a watch that runs all the time. But watches are designed and intended to run all the time (or, at the very least, a lot of the time). What's the difference between a watch sitting on a winder or a watch being worn all day, every day? (other than the fact on the winder it never gets jostled, hit, dropped, shaken, etc.) Do people that fear wear from winders not own daily wear watches?
 
#17 ·
Much like timegraphers when I started this hobby, I thought a watch winder was a must have.

I now sit on two in the house that are rarely, if ever, in use. I gifted one to my father and he gave it back to me when he left the state. I got one as a freebie from an AD and neither get used enough to justify the horizontal space they take up.
 
#18 ·
Used one for a couple years. Couldn't get the thought out of my head that it was just causing unnecessary wear and tear on my watch movements. Stopped using it about 2 years ago and haven't looked back. The only reasons I can see for using one would be really complex watch movements and or the simple convenience of being able to pick up and watch and go. I now enjoy the few minutes of interaction with a watch to get it started up with a minute of shaking and setting the date/time. I figure as long as I'm using my watches in somewhat regular rotation, I'm not worried about the lubrication drying up or getting gummy.
 
#21 · (Edited)
Winders (quality ones) are a tool of convenience that work well on properly-running, and properly-maintained (i. e. Regularly serviced) watches. [They are also not long-term (weeks), unmonitored storage devices for reasons following.]

Outside of those conditions, constantly running any watch; whether by auto or hand winding; is going to exacerbate existing or generate new issues.

If you have enough gear wear to stop your watch, you likely had at least two of:
contamination.
Improper or expired lubrication.
Excessive winding from improper /low-quality winder use.

None of those issues are inherent to the winder.
 
#29 ·
I would think this one is easy, but I am finding on WUS, nothing is easy lol. If one doesn't want to have their watches continuously running, don't get a winder. If one does want the convenience, of pulling one, putting your watch on without having to set the date and day, get one. Easy right?
 
#34 ·
Hasn't this subject been discussed hundreds of times? I don't think we're gonna reach consensus on this.

I don't use winders for the simple fact that I don't want yet another device that I have to plug in, use up electricity, make noises where I have to put it in a place where the sound won't drive me crazy, and spend major coin for a good one(s), when I don't own a perpetual or annual calendar.

I promise to ping you back when or if I ever do get an annual or perpetual calendar. Even then, I probably won't buy one for the reasons stated above.

As for wear and tear, last time I checked, an automatic watch is designed to be worn every day. I'm sure all watches are designed to be worn everyday. So service times, wear and tear, it's immaterial to me. The watch will be serviced when it needs to be serviced. I don't think that is an issue whether you use a winder or don't.
 
#41 ·
What's YOUR opinion on using watch winders?
I struggle to see the point in using an electric device for keeping a mechanical watch wound. Why bother to pick a mechanical watch in the first place when the convenience of a quartz watch (pick up and go without winding and setting) is what you want? The usual excuse for living with way higher servicing costs, way less accuracy and less convenience is the fascination of mechanical movements not needing any electricity to run. Using an electric device for creating the convenience of a quartz watch seems bizarre.
 
#42 ·
...the fascination of mechanical movements not needing any electricity to run. Using an electric device for creating the convenience of a quartz watch seems bizarre.
But the fascination part doesn't change just because keeping it wound provides more convenience. Why is that bizarre? Are you saying you don't want convenience? (You may not... some folks here have stated they really like having their watches stop, and having to restart them. For me, I'll take all the convenience I can get, while still enjoying the fact that they're mechanical.)

-- Putting watches on winders causes more wear and tear than letting them rest (though no more than they would get IF you were to wear them all the time)
-- Winders provide convenience in setting/wearing, though some people don't need that convenience, or like less convenience and interacting with their watches more often

That's pretty much the whole story. All the arguments are basically just talking about what you prioritize and how. Everything's a trade.
 
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