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I’ll be honest, I really like the Hawkinge Type 48 and the Cruxible Hellion, but I’ve kept on eye on the site off and for like 8 months, and haven‘t seen a restock yet. In fairness back in May, I’d messaged the site and they said the model I was interested in had no set date for resupply for coming back, but was coming back.

How long does this sort of thing take for MKII? Do they drop once a year, every couple years?
 

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Like many one-man-show microbrands with limited production, the key is to be on the mailing list.

In 2022, I received emails from MkII for releases of (batches of) the T-R Paradive, Project 300, Paradive XIII, and three batches of Stingrays. The XIII and Stingray were also available at the NYC Wind Up fair. Of course, supplies are always limited.

Due to much hand-wringing about long waits between order time and delivery in the past, they seem to be operating now with intermittent releases in small batches that get delivered more promptly. But I think no one who truly appreciates this brand would want any decrease in quality in order to increase quantity.

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> Due to much hand-wringing about long waits between order time and delivery in the past, they seem to be operating
now with intermittent releases in small batches that get delivered more promptly. But I think no one who truly
appreciates this brand would want any decrease in quality in order to increase quantity.
well, this "much hand-wringing about long delays" is what has totally put me off this brand. It's totally unacceptable.

and, this thing about decrease in quality to increase quantity appears to be misplaced, I'm sorry.

Look at watches from Ginault. They are a million times better quality than anything MKII could even dream to make.
And, I own both the Project 300 & the Ocean Rover2. So, this is based on my personal experience & not BS hear-say.

Ginault wait times are 6-8 weeks& you have your watch -- they are making 500 of any model they offer. Within 6-12 months the whole lot of 500 are delivered. None of this nonsense of delivering 10-15 at a time at some really elevated. I mean the Project 300 is $1895 where it is nowhere near the quality of a $1200 Ocean Rover2.
Pretty disappointing of MkII.....:(

rant over.
apologies for the rant....
 

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I don’t think you need to apologize, we’re all here because we like discussing watches. I think the point comes to what we mean by the word “quality”.

“Quality” can be used to mean how precisely manufactured a watch is. But personally, I find it hard to make global judgments about the “quality” (in this sense) of watches. Of course all of us here obsess over the details, and I often admire one aspect of a certain watch while admiring a different aspect of another watch. In my watch box, I have a KW next to a BB58. I admire the sharpness of the dial and hands on the KW. I admire the sharpness of the case finishing on the BB58. They’re both great watches; if I had to get rid of one, I’m not sure which one I’d pick.

But for me, the more important aspect of “quality” has to do with quality of design. And of course this is a matter of taste. But a when it comes to MkII as a brand, what attracts me is the brand as a reflection and expression of one person’s taste and him making that a reality with as little compromise as humanly possible. You can have two sets of hands that are manufactured with equal precision, but which ones are better proportioned, with all the little details that appeal to your ideal? Again, this is a matter of taste. But my taste resonates with what MkII is doing and I don’t ever want that vision to be compromised to get the watch to me sooner.

I totally respect that for someone else, their taste might perfectly resonate with a Ginault. And that’s great. We’re lucky that there are so many choices out there these days.

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Bill Yao… dude is an enigma and not necessarily in an intriguing way. Not sure why he gets so much love. His original collection was made up of Rolex copies one had to wait years for. His supposedly “ready to wear” watches are never ready to buy.

Interacting with him at Windup SF was an exercise in frustration. I had a passing interest in a Paradive but that encounter was enough to put me off for good.
 

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Short of blatantly criminal or immoral behavior, not sure I’d ever make a watch buying decision based on my judgment about the personal qualities of the person who made it. Sadly, even the quality of a watch company’s customer service rarely factors into whether or not I buy their watch, personally. The watch stands on its own merits to me, or it doesn’t.

Sorry to hear the Paradive didn’t tickle your fancy, hope you found something else you liked at the show.

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Short of blatantly criminal or immoral behavior, not sure I’d ever make a watch buying decision based on my judgment about the personal qualities of the person who made it. Sadly, even the quality of a watch company’s customer service rarely factors into whether or not I buy their watch, personally. The watch stands on its own merits to me, or it doesn’t.

Sorry to hear the Paradive didn’t tickle your fancy, hope you found something else you liked at the show.

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Not sure of your point. MKII is a one man band meaning the separation between the watches and the person behind them is wafer thin. The way Yao conducts himself within the context of his business IS the brand.

If one has a bad experience with a brand like Omega, for example, it’s easy to blame a clueless SA or a goober in the service department. With MKII, any and all issues reflect directly on the brand owner, do they not?

As for the Paradive, I like the watch. That’s not the problem. Jumping thru Yao’s hoops to buy one is. Again, that issue falls solely on one person’s shoulders.
 

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Short of blatantly criminal or immoral behavior, not sure I’d ever make a watch buying decision based on my judgment about the personal qualities of the person who made it. Sadly, even the quality of a watch company’s customer service rarely factors into whether or not I buy their watch, personally. The watch stands on its own merits to me, or it doesn’t...
Well-said! I say the same thing in another way; to wit: "The watch don't know who made it and who's selling it..."
 
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