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What do you mean "you decided to get your grail"?

3953 Views 101 Replies 72 Participants Last post by gr8adv, 3 mo ago

Buramu

Discussion Starter · 3 mo ago

That's not how any of this works.

Grails are supposed to be unattainable. The stuff of legends and lifetime quests.

Not something you decide to save up for for an extra month or two and then walk into an AD and get one.

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HarrisLam

· #12 · 3 mo ago

Buramu said:
That's not how any of this works.

Grails are supposed to be unattainable. The stuff of legends and lifetime quests.

Not something you decide to save up for for an extra month or two and then walk into an AD and get one.

If it's unattainable, how can it be a "lifetime quest"? Are you suggesting that everyone should fail their lifetime quests?

Check your language before posting.

I agree that grails should not be EASILY attainable. However I don't believe they should be unattainable either. I would personally make a distinction and call those unattainable grails, or unobtainium for short.

To me the phrase of "grail" in the community's common language is defined as THE END GOAL. It should be difficult but also within sight (but perhaps not within reach).

In 2021 when economy was good, my "grail" was Lange 1
Perhaps even the Grand Lange 1 moonphase, but because I also wanted GO PML which comes with a moon anyway so I probably wanted to opt for the vanilla Lange 1 instead.
Yes I was that greedy.

In 2022 we all know what happened to the financial market. My "grail" became just the GO PML.
It's something I can see myself getting, but not quite there yet unless I want to blow a hole in my portfolio.
It is something I can see myself getting when my cash flow is more than 5x the cost of the PML, which technically is just 50K.

I know the idea you're trying to get at, but don't make it to the other end of extreme. It's unnecessary.

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HarrisLam

· #35 · 3 mo ago

hiboost said:
With all due respect (and I say that sincerely having read many of your posts over the years) I can't believe that you actually mean this. The dictionary definition of "grail" is "a thing that is eagerly pursued or sought after." So technically this could refer to any watch we buy. Are we not eager when we buy them? Is there not some element of pursuit in each one of these non-essential acquisitions? But I believe this misses the spirit of differentiating a grail watch from simply a watch. The grail watch should quite simply be the one watch, after all you did to get it, that you'd never part with if you had to sell off your entire collection. The one watch that you cannot imagine ever trading for another, regardless of the economics. It's simply "the one." And thus I would offer that this title cannot be re-assigned based on the stock market going up or down. This is a question of passion, of desire. Your designation of a grail piece should only change if you fundamentally change your tastes. Perhaps you gain an appreciation for more complicated pieces, or become intrigued by the rarity of a vintage reference. Your ability to obtain the grail may fluctuate, but your feelings for it should not. In your example above, if anything, the Lange 1 should be even more solidly your grail now that it is become difficult to achieve. If you were in a position to consider it before, then you should be able to achieve that again at some point. Why not savor the long term journey?

Thanks for having been reading my comments through the time I've been around and most of all actually recognizing my name. That means a lot when my avatar is nothing but a capital "H".

I guess the main differentiation here is that you seem to define the grail as an unshakable faith that, once decided, should never be changed under any circumstances.

Whereas I define it as something "I can see in the horizon". Think something along the lines of the good old interview question of "where do you see yourself in 5 years?"

Or to clarify, I'm not "giving up" on the Lange 1. I'm merely accepting the likely possibility that I might never be able to get it. All that does is giving more exposure to PML in questions I answer in posts.

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