Yeah, spec's of +45 to -35 seconds per day does not instill confidence or any desire for me to buy one of these watches.I think that Seiko really dropped the ball on the lastest version of their hackable/handwinding 4r watches. They have a solid movement with attractive features, but their watches were just plain and boring.
I agree.As for Citizen, they had some cool watches that came out with their Mecanico series. Good looking watches with new movements. I'd like to see more of that. It's doubtful, however, since Eco-Drive seems to be their biggest and primary focus.