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When did copies become homages?

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When did copies become homages? I'm curious, how this came about? To me a homage is a watch that makes reference to another iconic watch, inspiration or repurposing a desirable feature or design. For example a watch with Oyster case and sterile dial with sword hands but with Fifty Fathom like bezel, to me that would be a homage to Fifty Fathom and possibly vintage military dive watches.

But I'm curious how the WUS or watch community has come to accept copies like Steinhart, Invicta Pro Diver, or Tissell Explorer as being homages, when in fact they are copies. Homage would be pay respecting to the original. This is just ripping off the original design.

I understand some people don't like homages of any kind. I'm OK with a watch that combines features from others, and apply some flair of their own. But I see so many straight copies that are called homages and I don't understand it, since they are clearly not homages, they are copies.

And some people also seem to not able to understand a copy and replica are no the same thing. I"m not saying Steinhart or Davaso make Rolex replicas, but they certainly are making Rolex copies.

To me calling these watches homages is an insult to other watches that are actually homages, as it puts a watch with interesting character of their own in the same basket with these lame copies.
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So some people are not ok with external copying and accepting internal copying?
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1. ETAs patents expired
2. the Swiss government, pretty much forced ETA to stop supplying movements so others can grow and develop
3. Sellita worked with ETA
4. they're actually not identical, they do fit the same cases
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Diving Watches are NOT clones or homages of the Submariner. They look the way they look because of ISO6425.
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But I'm curious how the WUS or watch community has come to accept copies like Steinhart, Invicta Pro Diver, or Tissell Explorer as being homages, when in fact they are copies. Homage would be pay respecting to the original. This is just ripping off the original design.
unfortunately, you can't block people from joining WUS based on watches owned.... i can put them on ignore though ;)

I think in general we all agree with you, but there are still people that buy these "copies".
The watch fascists have spoken. Each of these watches is a copy of an out of production Rolex. The one on the left is a Steinhart and the other is a San Martin. When it comes down to where the rubber meets the road, any watch that has a dial and hands is ripping off the design of what came before it. It would be an honor and a privilege to be on your ignore list.
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granted!!
Ok, I give up, I’ll start buying copies…







NOT!!!!!


but my ignore list has grown substantially…. Woohoo!!
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generic acetaminophen is identical to tylenol, no difference that I've ever heard of other than the name. once the patent runs out competing pharmaceuticals can make and sell their brand of tylenol, or ibuprofin, or aspirin etc. samey samey. I've never noticed any difference in the efficacy of a generic brand
By law generic medicine HAS TO BE IDENTICAL.
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