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To start, I have no idea of the non-male membership constituency on WUS, but I assume that a marked majority on this forum identify as male. Yet, as fellow watch lovers, many of you will have significant others in your life. As this ladies' watch forum shows, every now and then you might find yourself faced with the question what options are there to treat them to an interesting timepiece. As a starting enthusiast I’m only too happy to spend some time analysing and appreciating any interesting watch design, but I find most (affordable) watches aimed at women a bit of a let-down.

Don’t get me wrong, there are plenty of women’s watch designs being produced: from common high street fair, such as Skagen, to high end jewellery, such as ever-popular (and very expensive) Cartier. More often than not, in my impression, watch designs for women tend to use brighter colours, bling, or both. While I certainly can appreciate the elegance of a diamond or two on a women’s watch, bling and bright colour alone do not make a great design in themselves. Sometimes a women’s watch version is no more than a simple downsizing exercise. Another thing that seems conspicuous is the general absence of mechanical movements, even from the more luxury brands (though threads on this forum already alerted me to Certina breaking this trend). Before quartz was an option, naturally mechanical movements did power women’s watches, too. Is there no love for mechanical movements from the other sex? Moreover, when recently on such a quest myself, to find a suitable piece for a significant other, I noticed a distinct lack of representation of women’s watches in the current barrage of microbrands.

Why, I ask myself, is there not a similar desire for design flair and outright creativity, or even horology, geared towards women’s watches?

Naturally, the other sex can coast along somewhat with those models marketed or simply deemed suitable as unisex. I also realise that like all watches, the watch size considered appropriate for women has increased significantly over time, which puts many more watches up for consideration. Certainly, I wouldn’t want to prescribe what anyone wants to wear. Yet, as I’m probably still somewhat more traditional at heart, I find it a sector of the market lacking energy and excitement. Certainly on WUS in general, women’s watch designs seem to get much less (if any) traction, and many of the threads in this forum focus on higher ~>2000USD/EUR/GBP price points.

Therefore, I felt it was time for a thread like this. Since luxury (and fashion) watch brands have certainly not stopped producing women’s models, I’m particularly (but not exclusively) interested in finding out about the following:
  1. Microbrands or independents that also specifically include designs catering for other than the male sex. (As far as I’m concerned it does not have to marketed as a women’s watch, but I’m interested to find out about creative, elegant, and well-balanced watch designs that you would consider suitable and desirable for the other sex.)
  2. Smaller form factors (which I consider on or below typical men's vintage sizes, so say ~<34mm);
  3. Women's watches with mechanical movements;
  4. Genuinely interesting designs (so not just added bling, bright colours, or downsized) at affordable price points (say ~<1000USD/EUR/GBP).
Nevertheless, ultimately anything goes really, although I'd propose a focus on contemporary rather than vintage pieces. I’m simply eager to see what you would or indeed have considered when not buying in the 'Cartier/Hermes-like category'. Naturally, if any are in fact reading this, very keen to hear from discerning women’s watch wearers themselves!

Watch brands meeting some of these criteria that I consider worthy of a look include Frederique Constant, Tissot, and some Longines.

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To kick things off, I will share an example I actually bought and gifted, priced at only 159EUR, and naturally no mechanical movement. It's powered by a Swiss Ronda quartz movement. The micro (fashion) designer's brand is Cate & Nelson. I chose the No. 178, which at 34mm is the smallest size they then offered, yet at the top end of what I consider a smaller size (see the original post). It's a very minimalist watch design that focuses on a few interesting details, such as the indented hour and minute markers, a brass case (why is brass not used more often?), hidden lugs (effectively reducing the size when wearing it), a red seconds hand, and the crown at five o'clock. It's a really fun piece, though I regret to say that the seconds hand doesn't line up that well to the markers (one of my pet peeves with quartzes), the leather band it ships with is below par and doesn't last long at all, and overall the watch crystal (hardened mineral glass) is ageing very poorly. (Needless to say, the I have been looking out for an alternative, and found one that I have yet to gift (I'll post later).)

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Why do men seem to think that they can decide what's best for women. And inevitably when a woman does start a thread here it is inundated with mansplainin'...much like this thread
Naturally I did wonder if I should be concerned about bigotry and condescension in writing such a thread. I hope we can leave this unconstructive line of thinking for what it is. After all, I give several genuine reasons for why I would take an interest in this topic, and it's not to tell anyone what to wear! Take my analysis of what this market sector has to offer anyway you like, and please do prove my impressions wrong. Why not take my invitation to showcase what you really like, even if it breaks all the approximate parameters I set for my interest?
 

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Naturally I did wonder if I should be concerned about bigotry and condescension in writing such a thread. I hope we can leave this unconstructive line of thinking for what it is. After all, I give several genuine reasons for why I would take an interest in this topic, and it's not to tell anyone what to wear! Take my analysis of what this market sector has to offer anyway you like, and please do prove my impressions wrong. Why not take my invitation to showcase what you really like, even if it breaks all the approximate parameters I set for my interest?
The impression I'm getting is that you are describing and deciding women appropriate watches. Sorry but to me it comes off as condescending and 'mansplainin'. Look at the choices YOU pick and the factors YOU think best suited for a women. I on the other hand learned a long time ago to not just respect a woman's choice/decision but that it's not up to me to approve or disapprove. Your thread is a bit like some others here where a person takes it upon themselves to patiently point out why big/dive/gold/expensive etc watches are good/bad/appropriate/inappropriate when in the end it's an individual's choice to make. But you seem determined to press on so have at, it is the Ladies Watch forum and I feel I've intruded too much as it is...
 
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The impression I'm getting is that you are describing and deciding women appropriate watches. Sorry but to me it comes off as condescending and 'mansplainin'. Look at the choices YOU pick and the factors YOU think best suited for a women. I on the other hand learned a long time ago to not just respect a woman's choice/decision but that it's not up to me to approve or disapprove. Your thread is a bit like some others here where a person takes it upon themselves to patiently point out why big/dive/gold/expensive etc watches are good/bad/appropriate/inappropriate when in the end it's an individual's choice to make. But you seem determined to press on so have at, it is the Ladies Watch forum and I feel I've intruded too much as it is...
You are right that I have clearly set out some very basic parameters of what I prefer in watches typically aimed at women and also my perceived lack of choice and creativity within those parameters. As so many on this forum I'm trying to use the knowledge of the membership to find out about watches I may be missing and interesting developments in the market I am unaware of. None of that prescribes anybody else what to like or what to wear. It is also very clear that watch brands are capable of this market segmentation, and while I'm sure a good few people would happily wear anything despite of how it's labelled, the segmentation suggests there is still a genre of watches aimed at women. Within that genre I have my design preferences just like I have my preferences for men's watches. It makes little difference to my preference whether I intend to wear the watch myself. I've clearly stated in the thread that it's up to you to decide what is suitable, appropriate, or what you like to wear. That's what I want to know about. If that is hot pink, studded in gems, and standing proud at 45mm, feel free to post it! As anyone seeking ideas and suggestions, though, I might not be so interested in that particular watch as suggested by the parameters set. I am equally interested in this from the design perspective as from the perspective as someone who sometimes buys a watch as a gift and then genuinely tries to find something suited to the individual I know while using designs I can appreciate. (I find it slightly disingenuous to gift something I don't believe in on any level, but equally senseless to gift things only I prefer rather than thinking of the intended person wearing it.)

Also, if what you mean to say is that this forum is only meant for members identifying as women to discuss things among themselves rather than a forum aimed at discussing ladies' watches, please tell me now, for I will have misinterpreted the purpose of this forum.
 

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You are right that I have clearly set out some very basic parameters of what I prefer in watches typically aimed at women and also my perceived lack of choice and creativity within those parameters. As so many on this forum I'm trying to use the knowledge of the membership to find out about watches I may be missing and interesting developments in the market I am unaware of. None of that prescribes anybody else what to like or what to wear. It is also very clear that watch brands are capable of this market segmentation, and while I'm sure a good few people would happily wear anything despite of how it's labelled, the segmentation suggests there is still a genre of watches aimed at women. Within that genre I have my design preferences just like I have my preferences for men's watches. It makes little difference to my preference whether I intend to wear the watch myself. I've clearly stated in the thread that it's up to you to decide what is suitable, appropriate, or what you like to wear. That's what I want to know about. If that is hot pink, studded in gems, and standing proud at 45mm, feel free to post it! As anyone seeking ideas and suggestions, though, I might not be so interested in that particular watch as suggested by the parameters set. I am equally interested in this from the design perspective as from the perspective as someone who sometimes buys a watch as a gift and then genuinely tries to find something suited to the individual I know while using designs I can appreciate. (I find it slightly disingenuous to gift something I don't believe in on any level, but equally senseless to gift things only I prefer rather than thinking of the intended person wearing it.)

Also, if what you mean to say is that this forum is only meant for members identifying as women to discuss things among themselves rather than a forum aimed at discussing ladies' watches, please tell me now, for I will have misinterpreted the purpose of this forum.
You are in the Ladies Watch Forum...one could conclude that it's more appropriate for women to discuss watches that they choose. You in there pointing out watches and styles is, what's the word...mansplainin?
 

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You are in the Ladies Watch Forum...one could conclude that it's more appropriate for women to discuss watches that they choose. You in there pointing out watches and styles is, what's the word...mansplainin?
From other threads in this forum it doesn't appear to be a forum that is exclusive to women. I would hope most people on WUS are especially motivated by discussing and finding out more about watches no matter what their identity and background is. Indeed, on the level of appreciating watch design, I don't approach women's watches differently than men's. Call that what you like. I hope it doesn't stop other readers to use this thread for which it was so clearly intended: sharing good and exciting developments in (affordable) women's watch designs.
 

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This is probably the single most offensive thread I've ever read in the Ladies Watch forum. Take your condescension somewhere else. If you really want to learn about women's watches, then spend your time reading some of the threads here written BY women ABOUT women's watches...maybe you'll learn something. The WOMW thread usually has a lot of affordable watches. The watch store for female watch enthusiasts thread (and many other threads) touch on the difficulty in finding watches with attributes we want, and Tissot, FConstant, and Longines are brought up on a regular basis. Conversely, a lot of the men who drop in here try to convince us that Cartier and Rolex are, or should be, our preferred brands. SMH.
 
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