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Hey guys I was able to get focused on this watch.
I installed a new crystal, yea a simple thing but I had one so it's done.
I also discovered binding train gears so I removed the bridge and reset the gears that is good now. I pulled the balance and (pallet fork it is ok) and this runs fine which points to the balance which moves freely so that would be the next thing to look at. I checked the crown and it's no good, the spring tube just spins.
So from what I can see it needs the balance (likely the hairspring) a stem, crown and the back needs refinish. The case is in good shape but could use some plating touch up. It could use a band as well. I didn't clean the movement since there is more to be done on it. This runs an ETA 2824-2
Anyway this needs to move along to the next WUSer by 9-6 since I am gone til the 9-20.
 

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Elvis has left the building.

The WUSF6-WWWT watch has left Vegas and is headed to ?????
 

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The WUSF6-WWWT watch arrived in Texas today. Anyone interested in details on how to "host" the watch should PM pithy.

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Sorry for the delay in posting about the watch's stay in the capital of the Great State of Texas - Austin. :)

I showed her a few of the sights near my humble abode, which you can see in the pictures. The first is the state capitol building, which is one of my favorite buildings in the city. It's unfortunate that it's currently under construction. The second was the clock tower on the University of Texas campus. This tower has a bit of a grim history, being the site of the shootings in '66 (way before my time), but is now used to celebrate the victories of the UT Longhorns. They light the tower up orange after wins.

As for repair, I put the watch on a strap which you can see in the pictures. I also supplied a stem which hopefully someone will be able to pair with a proper crown. Speaking of crowns, there was a tragic accident...the crown supplied was not operational, and while photographing, fell off the watch into the grass of the capitol grounds. I searched for a bit, but it was 90-100 degrees that day, and I started to worry what the capitol police force might think. :)

And...here are the pics. Enjoy! I look forward to seeing the next leg of the journey in the great white north.

WUSF6 WWWT - Imgur

-Kevin
 

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good photos

It may be a little busy - but that's one interesting looking watch and a unique strap.

(About Saturday: Has Mack recovered? That was a pretty interesting 30 some seconds. Remember - Bob really needed it after the last few years.)
 

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retrospection

The recent history of the "Tour Watch", begins here in Sarasota, Florida, USA.

I have little information on the Breil company (which I believe is based in Italy) and no info on the prior life of this watch other than what the indignities suffered by the movement imply. (REG may know more, but he hasn't shared it yet.) I had never seen a 2824 with a bad staff and two broken hole jewels. The stainless steel back has a scar on it, but I don't know if could be from a blow that had enough g's to do the damage sustained. There may be other explanations.
 

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Re: retrospection

Just a quick not to say the watch has landed here in Canada, but as it is our Thanksgiving I am off to the coast for several days and will give the watch a good look-see when I get back. I am sure I have never seen a watch with a compass on the crystal before.
 

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Sorry for the delay in posting about the watch's stay in the capital of the Great State of Texas - Austin. :)

I showed her a few of the sights near my humble abode, which you can see in the pictures. The first is the state capitol building, which is one of my favorite buildings in the city. It's unfortunate that it's currently under construction. The second was the clock tower on the University of Texas campus. This tower has a bit of a grim history, being the site of the shootings in '66 (way before my time), but is now used to celebrate the victories of the UT Longhorns. They light the tower up orange after wins.

As for repair, I put the watch on a strap which you can see in the pictures. I also supplied a stem which hopefully someone will be able to pair with a proper crown. Speaking of crowns, there was a tragic accident...the crown supplied was not operational, and while photographing, fell off the watch into the grass of the capitol grounds. I searched for a bit, but it was 90-100 degrees that day, and I started to worry what the capitol police force might think. :)

And...here are the pics. Enjoy! I look forward to seeing the next leg of the journey in the great white north.

WUSF6 WWWT - Imgur

-Kevin
Very cool I like the band nice look.
 

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Thanks. I think it was NOS from the 70s. I had ordered it for another watch, not realizing that it was actually two-tone. It's not a band I would normally wear, but it seemed to fit this watch well enough.
 

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Ok, I've had a chance to have a quick look see at our watch, and so far, it has a bent hairspring, and has suffered a shock of some kind, and a severe one at that. I think there also may be an issue with the pallet fork, it doesn't seem to lock on the exit stone, but I didn't take it apart, and the auto module is obscuring the jewels of the fork. The spring seems unusually stiff, but maybe I'm too used to the really old ones which I've seen a lot of lately. The compass needle is not demagnetized, it follows a piece of steel readily enough, but certainly doesn't work properly. It floats readily enough, so I'm not sure what is up with it, it is beyond my ken. I will take into school tomorrow where the Professeurs can also have a look, and we will straighten the hairspring and examine the pallet fork under high magnification. I'll be able to get some pics hopefully, and we'll proceed with trying to make the thing run. This will involve a proper service and lube, and any additional problems should come to light at that point. The crown, as we have read, is still in Texas where it will probably reside until found by archaeologists.
 

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An interesting day. This watch is a veritable sea of faults. I suspect that some of these were placed deliberately, because there is no way that I can see that a watch in normal service would have so much wrong with it. Is that the idea? So we can all have a repair to do? Anyway, here is what's what and what I did:
First and foremost, the watch doesn't run because the balance staff is broken. Second, the jewels on the pallet fork are out to lunch. The exit stone doesn't even touch the escape wheel, and I'll get to the train in a moment. The arm of the pallet fork is bent, and we gently tried to straighten it after we re-aligned the jewels. Not happy with the performance after this, so we chucked the pallet fork and it now boasts a gleaming new one. Unfortunately, I hadn't noticed the staff was broken on the balance and I spent some time on the hairspring making it round and flat again. It had gotten bent against the regulator pins. In addition to this, the balance cock was also not flat, and had a distorted screw hole, so we tossed it and installed another one, with the fine tune regulator. The train bridge looks decidedly out of place, as it is discoloured and was once gold plated. The jewels all need adjustment because the end shake is totally out of whack. I did not do this, that is for another stop on its journey. We also decide not to do the clean and lube, also for another time and place. It is still missing a crown, we couldn't find anything really suitable.
I replaced the missing screw for the pallet fork bridge, and we re-assembled the watch and stuck it on the Witschi for a quick evaluation, as it was now running merrily along. I have included pics of most of this, as well as a shot of our main classroom. The last thing I should mention is that when we closed the case, the watch stopped, and we couldn't readily ascertain why, so this, too is a puzzle waiting to be solved. It runs fine without the caseback on. I also blued (slightly unsuccessfully) the centre rotor screw. Perhaps everybody can blue a screw or two on the journey and it will look very posh when it is all done.
 

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Here are a couple more pics of the work in progress, including a shot of the Witschi analysis. I am looking forward to seeing what happens to the watch in her next stop.
Now that is cool, gotta love seeing it run, Good job
 

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facts stranger than fiction

Rob, it's not a bench test and this is more or less the condition the watch was sourced in. The bridge is from a Rado 2836 (that also had an interesting life). The original bridge had two broken hole jewels. One of the wheels had a broken pivot. The watch had no apparent contamination despite the lack of a crown, but there was a lot of interesting material under the bezel and the original crystal had plenty of scars. Until REG gives up the "story", we'll just have to theorize. If anyone is near Sarasota stop in and ask him.

That looks like a great classroom/lab and all that light is wonderful. It would be good if someone could share the history and other details of the school - particularly with all the current interest we have in training. Please convey the Tour's special thanks to the staff.

If there are others in Canada interested in "hosting" the Watch - PM pithy ASAP - otherwise it's headed for a long boat ride.

Great job with all the heavy lifting, Rob!

pithy
 

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It was a rewarding experience, I must say, and I do enjoy a bit of problem solving. This watch would have been an excellent teaching aid and project, as it offered so many interesting little challenges in virtually all areas. Well, I can help promote the school a bit, we are the last surviving watchmaker's school in Canada, located in Trois-Rivières, Quebec. The schools in Toronto and Montreal closed in 1988. The school dates back to after the second World War, when returning soldiers were offered training in watchmaking as a new career. The course is a two year one split into two sections, with the second one specializing in Complications, like chronographs, repeaters and grandfather clocks. If I remember correctly, the total hours are 2600. Although we are a WOSTEP school, full WOSTEP certification requires 3000 hours, again if memory serves. The school has a website: http://www2.csduroy.qc.ca/Bel-Avenir/horlogerie.htm
We have a comprehensive library which includes many out of print manuals and documents, and an exhaustive inventory of parts numbering in the millions, and no, they don't sell parts, just to anticipate the inevitable question. Costs for tuition and materials run about 5 grand, roughly, if you are from outside the province. Outside the country is considerably higher, more like 25 grand. (We had a student from Madagascar) Currently there are 5 of us Anglophones at the school attempting to speak broken French, and hilarity usually ensues. Our Chief Horologist, Professeur Robert Plourde speaks excellent English, so no worries there for any one who doesn't speak French. He is the son of one of the founding watchmakers/instructors, Michel Plourde. It is very cheap to live in the town, and we have all had a very enjoyable stay here, as it is really quite beautiful. It is also the oldest industrialized town in North America, founded in 1634. It is the second oldest city in Canada, next to Quebec city. I have included a couple pics.
 

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about the Tour

in response to recent queries:

What is the "Tour"?

A unique vintage watch is making its way from "watchmaker" to "watchmaker" around the world.

What is the purpose of the Tour?

There is none! It seemed like fun and it was hoped that some higher purpose would evolve. Perhaps the local photos of the watch and the host's experiences with it will give some insights into the lives of those whose usernames appear on the forum. Technically, the ETA mechanical is a movement we should all become well versed in.

Who is a "watchmaker"?

A watchmaker is a regular poster on the watchmaking forum. Those hosting the watch will include professionals, students, skilled hobbyists and those just starting their own self directed exploration of watchmaking.

How do I get involved?

1. Follow the Tour in the forum and provide input. This is important.
2. Host the watch.

What is involved in "hosting"?

The watch is mailed to you. You can perform a repair on it - but you are not obligated to do anything to the watch other than mail it to the next "watchmaker" in about a week. Most hosts will "time" it, take a few interesting photos of the watch in local settings and post about their experiences with it on the forum. To host - PM pithy.

What ultimately happens to the watch?

When the Tour is concluded, the watch will be disposed of in a manner consistent with the collective wishes of the hosts.
 

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The watch showed up in T-Town today for redirection and was still running. The postal service is obviously a direct replacement for a winding machine. Attached is a beat graph (98.4%). Pithy reduced the height of the movement ring, resized the back and closed the case. And the watch is still running.

Pithy likes the:

Rodania strap - particularly the extreme taper between the lug width and the buckle width.

Blued rotor screw - this is perfect. Heat or chemical?

Crystal and fitting. Mineral glass?

The Tour needs forum input. Should the watch attend more school or go on a cruise?
 

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