Not sure what is the right answer, but wouldn't want to take it underwater for any length of time.Hello!
I will buy suunto core black yellow tommorow, but I have one question.
How much m/ft yellow black can go under water, because on first page of suunto web, they say 10m/30ft, and on technical data page they say 30m/100ft. :-s
LOL your grammar is better than many people who were born speaking English.And why is that?
(sorry for my grammar, I'm from croatia):-x
Understood, but I think I will hold off until people here post regular exposure of the Core to water.Keep in mind that Suunto were making their reputation with Dive Computers before they ever started on ABC wristops, so I think you can trust that they know a thing or two about making things work underwater.
One of the first things I did with my Core was try out the depth gauge and it works great.
Yes this is true but one must consider the PR and prestige effect!I have a Vector that has been through everything I can think to do with it. Remember these are FIELD watches and not designed as dive watches. I have had mine down about 20 feet and that was plenty for me. It was cold, my eyes hurt, and it got dark... Thats deep enough for this land lover!
I have a buddy who is in Special Forces... he has taken his Advisor EVERYWHERE... its been down to about 50-60 feet with no issues.
I wouldn't take one diving, but they are pretty reliable. I have never had an issue. I think its funny that most of us fuss over water resistance when the deepest most of us take a field watch is a few feet under the surface.
I would not hesitate for one second to swim or play in the water with any of my Suunto products. Again, the ABC watches are NOT divers... They perform very well at what they are designed to do.
Personally, I think that Suunto is a little conservative with their water resistance ratings... But I dont have any proof of that. My guess is that they can probably go deeper than stated. But I know MY body wont be that deep!
The problem with a 30 m rating is that as I said above in the rest of the watch world a 30 m rating means that the watch is not even suitable to be wearing while surface swimming. Therefore people considering a Suunto Core might think thats the case for Suunto's aswell and terefore dismsiss it as their choice. Im quite sure that many more people would choose a Suunto Core or Vector instead of a Casio PathFinder due to its superior professional sensors if they knew that it could take the beat when used for swimming and snorkling but because it is only rated 30 M they consider it weak and wont buy it because they want something more sturdy that can take som action in the water. I am one of those convinced that Suunto Core or Vector can be used in the water and therefor shoudl not have a 30 M rating. Perhaps they are indeed comparable to a 100M Pathfinder when it comes to water resistance. I am just puzzled by the fact that Suunto has choosen to be so conservative that many people think its fragile crap. They are definetly loosing customers on this!Sure, send me some money and Ill do it. But I feel comfortable enough with the watch that I'm not going to "waste" the time or money for the test. Better yet, buy me a testing machine! I bet it goes both ways. I bet there are a lot of "200M" watches out there that are not really. (If you tested them all). I think Suunto has chosen to err on the side of conservative WR ratings. Again, 100FT is way more than most of us choose to go. And if I were diving, I wouldn't wear one of my field watches... Thats why I have all these 200M dive watches laying around.
I'm not saying I understand their marketing... or even that I have any facts to back up my claim that they are erring on the conservative side. But I have had 200M G Shocks fail in the bathtub. What Im saying is that I think the 30-100M WR that Suunto offers is enough for the job that the watch is designed to do.
As for sales, I haven't seen their numbers but they dont seem to be in any trouble. They may not feel a need to compete with the Casio Protrek/Pathfinder line. Thats their business decision. Personally I think they should be pushing toward a higher WR and solar capabilities... but no one asked me for my marketing advice!
Lastly, I don't think its an issue of "bravery" to have any watch tested. They don't pressurize the water per se, instead I believe its a "reverse" pressurization... so its not that water would be seeping into the watch in a test, its whether air bubbles escape from the watch. (At least I think).
If the 30M WR of a Vector isn't enough for your lifestyle, perhaps you should get an Observer, or maybe you would be happier with a Casio product.
I think that a 10 m depth gauge is usefull for people just swimming and taking short snorkling dives or diving at low depth. I dont think people snorkling often goes more then 10 meters.I think it's a bit of a wasted opportunity. After all, if you are going to provide a depth gauge, 10m isn't really that useful. It should measure down to at least 30m or it's not worth having one at all. Ideally 80m like my Citizen ;-) But I guess it depends on intended usage. Surfers hopefully won't be hanging around at 10m!!! For freedivers, you want at least 30 to 40m minimum, and preferably something small and low profile. I think it's still a little strange. But cool!
Agree! But the problem is that many people that knows the limitation of normal 30 m rated watches, would not even consider sinking it in water so I think thats a problem for Suunto. I simply cannot understand Suuntos thinking about this. I think its quite obvious that Suunto 30 m is not the same as 30 m in the rest of the watch world and thats a problem!Even for occasional divers like me, who stick to the Med and the Red Sea, where all the best diving is in ten metres anyway, this function is, at best, gimmicky.
As long as the watch can stand up to the rigours of swimming and occasional snorkelling (and therefore also most above-water watersports like windsurfing and jetskiing), I suspect 99% of customers will be quite happy.