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14. Design thread cubed

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Dear All,

This is the new thread for project discussion on dial colour, dial texture, and to infinity and beyond.

A reminder *not* to misuse voting threads for discussions; counting votes from 200 members who may or may not be registered is hard enough.

When new information becomes available this post will be updated.

Commenting and Campaigning:

We all have opinions and ideas about what we want out of this project. We appreciate that and even within the committee we all have different tastes. That said this is a reminder to please not beat any dead animals. If you have stated your opinion about a certain design or suggestion please do not continue to push your opinion. That also goes for campaigning or trying to influence other people's vote. We are all reading this thread and we most likely all understand your feeling. If you want something specific to happen you need to submit a design or work with someone that has the skill (if they are willing) to help you put forth your ideas. All registered members have the right to submit their designs for any phase of voting unless stated otherwise (As an example, only om-4 will be submitting further designs with regard to the dial).

Comments, suggestions and applause will still be taken from members though.

Courtesy:

- Please remain civil with one another and with the committee. So far all of us have been doing a great job of this. If people are asking questions they should already know the answer to from past threads or posts then please either politely answer their question, or point them in the right direction, or ignore them. Many members registered late in the process and may not have the full background. Telling people it's already been answered or any of the other typical forum comments don't help, and ain't fair.

Thanks all, and let the posts roll on...

Ric Capucho, On behalf of the 2013 AWF Project Watch Committee
 
#2 ·
Design renders thread:

Quite soon, a separate thread will be created where om-4 will be posting his design renderings, and which will have to remain "clean" so we're not losing the range of voting eligible design renders in the noise of discussion. So please folks, no posts in the Design renders thread, and reaction, comments, applause only here in this thread.

om-4's recent renders have already given us a wide range of amazing colours, amazing textures and amazing colour fade effects (yep, om-4 is amazing) so unless anyone has a dramatic new idea that differentiates from what's already gone before, we should now think about closing the book and cracking on with the colour and texture votings for what can only be an amazing dial.

Ric (amazed), On behalf of the 2013 AWF Project Watch Committee
 
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Thanks for the update Ric. I have not been keeping up with all of the design ideas and it has been a struggle to try and find all of the key information.

I look forward to seeing all the deisgns in one place. I had considered posting this as a suggestion anyway, so its good to know the committee feels the same.
 
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Dru.. Wha? Oh, look. Fireworks!
 
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I got my drinking out of the way this afternoon. Now that I've had a nap I think I'm ready to start all over again!

Speaking of starting all over, the last thread closed before I got a chance to send high praise for one of OM-4's recent renders. May I just say... THIS WATCH IS STUNNING! I WANT IT!

(thank you)

 
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I got my drinking out of the way this afternoon. Now that I've had a nap I think I'm ready to start all over again!

Speaking of starting all over, the last thread closed before I got a chance to send high praise for one of OM-4's recent renders. May I just say... THIS WATCH IS STUNNING! I WANT IT!

(thank you)

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GIVE THIS MAN THIS WATCH! Lord knows he desperately needs one :p
 
#27 ·
Just following up on something mentioned in the first Design Thread iteration:

Have we confirmed whether the lugs can be drilled for a standard spring-bar? Or can we only get them drilled if we go with the screw "spring"-bar?
 
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#28 ·
I don't understand the question here. I thought the question asked earlier was whether or not we could drill the lugs for screw bars, and I think the answer was "yes" (I'd have to go back and look unless someone can remember for certain). What else would they be drilled for if not a screw bar or a standard spring-bar? I don't have a Binnacle Anchor, so I don't know, but I figured whatever connected a strap or bracelet would be a spring bar, no?
 
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To the committee.

I do not believe that we should be having the colour vote on the watch at this stage. I do not believe that it will give a valid selection for the eventual dial for this watch. Having looked at some of the designs that Chip has so far come up with I have preferred some colours over others because of the way they look with the pattern. However when making my selection for the dial colour I only took into account the actual colour on a plain dial as I had no point of reference to how it will lokk with a pattern!!!!

I believe that you should rethink the decisions on dial colour until you have decided on a pattern. As a point of note, if we were to go with the globe pattern, I would have selected black as one of my choices.

Please do not take offence at this suggestion, it is just my humble opinion based upon my own choices and thought process for this watches dial colour.

Regards,

Sam
 
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#30 ·
To the committee.

I do not believe that we should be having the colour vote on the watch at this stage. I do not believe that it will give a valid selection for the eventual dial for this watch. Having looked at some of the designs that Chip has so far come up with I have preferred some colours over others because of the way they look with the pattern. However when making my selection for the dial colour I only took into account the actual colour on a plain dial as I had no point of reference to how it will lokk with a pattern!!!!

I believe that you should rethink the decisions on dial colour until you have decided on a pattern. As a point of note, if we were to go with the globe pattern, I would have selected black as one of my choices.

Please do not take offence at this suggestion, it is just my humble opinion based upon my own choices and thought process for this watches dial colour.

Regards,

Sam
I have to agree with this. To the letter and for the same reasons. Difficult choices for the committee to make, to be sure. Thanks for all the effort you're putting in.
 
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Regarding the vote on color vs. vote on texture/pattern -

It is an unfortunate chicken vs. egg scenario, and there isn't any way around it. If we put up 8 or 10 textures for a vote, all in the same color, then there would be people saying, "we can't vote on texture without knowing the color the dial will be".

We've seen a bunch of different color/texture combos. Just do your best to pick your favorite colors based on whatever combos you've seen, and keep in mind that no matter what color gets chosen, we'll still be voting on the texture later, so if there are some textures that look better with the winning color, those are likely to be the ones that rise to the top.
 
#35 ·
Fair point, my struggle has also been that I have not kept track with all of the design ideas that have been floating around. I know that Ric stated there would be a thread with just the design ideas so we could see what has been suggested so far. It might help if that was set up so that we could all use that to help make some decisions.

Anyway, still loving the whole project, so thank you to the committee for putting up with all our mythering*

1.mythering
1)Constant pestering
2)Annoying harrasment
3)Irratating tormenture

Frequent tactic used by children to obtain a desired effect. North English in word origin.
"Stop mythering me!"
 
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#36 ·
Yes, it is a "chicken/egg" scenario. The only alternative would be om-4 puts all his designs out in a neutral grey tone for everyone to vote on, then everyone votes on the color later. That would be somewhat strange, looking at grey watch faces without any color scheme.

Plus, many people are first drawn to watches from a distance (i.e. a display case) where colour/shine plays a big role, then are later drawn into the details (i.e. hands/markers/dial/etc.) when the watch is held in the hands and inspected more closely.

Good call on the committee's part,

-Dioptric
 
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Plus, many people are first drawn to watches from a distance (i.e. a display case) where colour/shine plays a big role, then are later drawn into the details (i.e. hands/markers/dial/etc.) when the watch is held in the hands and inspected more closely.

Good call on the committee's part,

-Dioptric
Agreed! I suspect that is why dial color was chosen first. I also think dial color plays a more pivotal role in how a watch looks with an outfit where as textural elements merely add visual interest... hence people are more likely to dismiss certain watches based on dial color then inclusion/exclusion of textural elements...

just my two pennies
 
#40 ·
I was asked to do all colours in all textures but hey that is 70 or more renderings.
I think for now most voters have seen at least 6 colours with most textures to have an idea.

For the next vote we can do all the textures of the top 3 colours (just 21 variations or so :think:) Maybe 2 if the third colour is too far off 1 and 2.
You get to see all textures for the top contenders. No second guessing what if.
Choose your favourite texture for your fav colour and be done.

Then we hopefully won't get: "greige won but polkadots looks hotter in pink"
 
#44 ·
For the next vote we can do all the textures of the top 3 colours (just 21 variations or so :think:) Maybe 2 if the third colour is too far off 1 and 2.
You get to see all textures for the top contenders. No second guessing what if.
Choose your favourite texture for your fav colour and be done.

Then we hopefully won't get: "greige won but polkadots looks hotter in pink"
Works for me, as long as that happens over a couple of rounds of voting, as I would assume is the plan.
I don't imagine we'd want to see a single winner picked by spreading 200ish votes across 21 designs. Even in a 'pick your top 3'-type format, you could end up with a winning colour/texture combo that only a small plurality actually liked.
 
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#45 · (Edited)
Folks, a clarification is needed:

The Colour Vote currently underway aims to select a *single* colour from the ten colours offered, and in a single step. Once the colour has been determined, only then will om-4 (I hope!) make some texture and fade effect proposals that should be considered to match. If this implies that you may wish to revisit your vote, then please do so now.

Please understand that if we had continued on a path of voting on a combination of 10 colours against 12 different textures/effects (last count) then om-4 would have been up nights painting 120 renders. Yep, madness. And om-4's not on our payroll, so twice the madness.

What we can trust is that om-4 won't propose crazy textures and/or fade effects that simply don't work with the chosen colour. Folks, our friend Chip (om-4) is basically an artist.

We the Committee acknowledge the chicken/egg problem with the colour/texture combinations, but feel that the best way to unlock the problem is to vote on the chicken (the colour). The chicken will then lay the egg, and all will be well. We *will* create a beautiful watch in a beautiful colour with a sensitively matched texture or fade effect.

Ric, on behalf of the AWF Project Watch Committee
 
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