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2016 Frogman - who's in for sure?

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#1 ·
So who is in and getting a Frog on release? Which one?

For me I know it is a novelty and not a tool I'll use while diving - but I wanted the DW-9900 1DJF and now the blue accented one is even better. Given that the 1ks lasted 8 years (I think?) before a refresh/new model hoping that these will be available second hand with a lesser hit to the wallet - at which point I'll grab another. However I really think that I will be trying to hold off on Japan launch day but not sure I can hold off.

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#7 ·
I agree here - I wear a watch when diving anyways - so why not have a few useful functions as a third line? I know a lot of people complain that it doesn't read the air in your tank, it doesn't give a stop point for assent etc. however the old fashion way of doing things without computers is still a hugely valuably skill set especially under water. Manual calculations allow for greater attention to detail - under water that's a must.

I am actually considering selling my gulfmaster and 1k frog if I end up liking this one that much.
 
#9 · (Edited)
As far as pricing goes there's one guy asking $2000 on eBay which is hilarious, but tictacarea.com as of now is selling the regular black for $790 and the blue one is high $800 something dollars, which to me is maybe a little high but not high enough to stop me from buying it. The way I look at it it's better than my current gwf1000 cus it gets rid of that tide graph and we get the upgraded sapphire crystal and carbon fiber band, and finally that nice LED back light I'm not using this or any of my watches for anything other than telling me time and date and the other basic alarm, timer and stopwatch functions. No diving here.
 
#14 ·
Too rich for my blood. I am not a diver.

But just out of curiosity: which Swiss and German watches provide this ruggedness and functionality at this price point?

If someone sees a need for these capabilities, or simply likes the watch, what problem do you see in spending 800 usd on one, as long as you can afford it?

Nothing wrong with Swiss and German watches, but what aspect of the value equation do you see as out of kilter here?

Many would see spending 50,000 usd on a UN or Patek as kray, kray.
 
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#22 ·
Wow, the watch looks pretty rad! It has tide graph and moon phase for sure!? This is a must for fishing... I mean, diving! ;)

Regarding prices in Europe, do you have any idea? It is really coming to stores in June 2016!?

Oh! One more thing... People praise the Frogman line all over. Why is this? Why is it sure a popular watch?

See you!

 
#25 ·
When you compare prices & features, on the face of it, Casio is really pushing it on price. [Pricing based on quick web search .. current offers]

It's really tough to convince oneself to take the bait !

Problem is that in 2 or 3 years [maybe sooner], production will have stopped & the resale market will have driven the prices up substantially. :think:

What to do ??? :-s :think:



To the extreme, does that much more go into these watches, than into this ? :think::think::think:

 
#26 · (Edited)
To the extreme, does that much more go into these watches, than into this ? :think::think::think:

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Take that calculator down to 100 metres depth of sea water and see how well it works. :)

Joking aside, it is non-trivial to make something decently water resistant, and doubly so when you include buttons that are meant to be pressed underwater. (It is a lot easier to spec a single water-resistant crown that is intended to be screwed down and static while underwater, than multiple water-resistant buttons that have to move.)

Also, a decent, accurate depth sensor isn't trivial either - at the 80m max rating for the depth display, the sensor has to measure pressure that is nearly 10 times higher than the surface - that is 130 pounds per square inch.

Electronics and programming are ever developing, but decent physical engineering is always going to come at more of a premium.

I agree these new Frogs are expensive, whether they are worth that cost will come down to build and reliability. There have been some reports that the build quality is significantly above a usual G-Shock, and the all-SS case and weight seem to bear that out. For me, if it is rock solid, measures depth accurately and reliably and stays bomb-proof for 5+ years then it will totally be worth it. If you weren't going to use it as intended, for diving, I don't quite get why you'd even worry about how much this one costs - why not just get one of the other Frogmen or a different G-Shock instead?
 
#30 ·
Normally, I don't give a damn about things I can't afford. But to be fair I think this new Frogman is a substantial upgrade to the previous generation. If you compare it to the MR-G, I think the equal (or better) build quality plus all the added functions makes it even more worthwhile. As already mentioned plenty of times in different threads, part of the cost is likely Casio's way to combat inflated resell prices.

Here are some screen caps of one of the promote videos. I must say, it's an absolutely beautiful case, with "bomb-proof" lug design and sexy grille textured buttons. Those lugs for sure will restrict custom straps, but looks like the strongest lug design yet from Casio.





Am I the only one wishing they have a lower priced and non-dive related model with the similar build? Perhaps a metal case Rangeman? ;-)
 
#32 ·
Those lugs for sure will restrict custom straps, but looks like the strongest lug design yet from Casio.
On the other hand, it looks as if it might work PERFECTLY for removing the strap altogether and using a loop of bungee... which is an even more practical way of wearing a bottom timer with a variety of thick suits.

 
#31 · (Edited)
A bit too expensive for a G shock, and with their current policy of making replacement parts unavailable to the general public makes me think it will be an expensive service as well, when you decide to replace the bezel after a few years!!

It is a gorgeous watch none the less, and as a lover of Screwbacks (I own a DW-5000SL, and a G-2000) I welcome any adition to the screwback collection.

And unlike the Rangegirl, the lugs wont brake as easily :), but at this price point and the already mentioned parts policy I seriously doubt this watch will be used for its intended purpose.

edit: I just read it is "slightly larger" than a GWF-1000 (which is already a ridiculously large watch), so even if I could afford one, I wouldn't buy it as my wrists cant handle that much macho-ness :)
 
#38 ·
Auch! G-Shock Portugal yesterday confirmed me that the new Frogman will cost around 999 euros here. Yes, around 1113 US dollars. Seems like a bit too much, or probably not. Even though I will use it in the ocean, I will not use it for scuba diving, so probably it will be overkill.

Tell me one thing. Frogmans over time usually gain value or just lose value like everything else? It's just too bad because this one looks so nice!
 
#44 ·
Will the one with the silver screws eventually be available from sellers like Amazon here in the states? I ask because I have a good bit of money built up there in gift cards and it would certainly help with swallowing the price of these new models? Or do I for certain need to order from overseas?
Thanks for any help!


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#45 ·
Will the one with the silver screws eventually be available from sellers like Amazon here in the states? I ask because I have a good bit of money built up there in gift cards and it would certainly help with swallowing the price of these new models? Or do I for certain need to order from overseas?
Thanks for any help!

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I would think so for sure, I don't see these being any different the the current models :)