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ah dangit and the new Seiko SPRE. Just wish it was 38mm!

 

You, me and just about everybody else who owns one. Still, I get a big dumb grin on my face whenever I look at mine. It's a killer design.

 

Sinn 556i in 38mm

 

If you can find a V2 Lorier Falcon used, it’s what you’re looking for:

 

I agree - I recently picked up a black dialed Seiko Alpinist to "test-drive" as a potential daily driver. While not a "diver" in official designation, the screw down crown and 20ATM water resistance certainly makes it capable if it ever came down to it. The bezel-less design is a much more subtle, arguably sophisticated look over the standard diver - perfect for M-F casual office wear in my opinion. Very impressed so far.

 

None of these watches are divers, you guys are aware of this, right?

 

ah, the pedant has arrived.

 

 

Cool ****.

Borealis watches are extremely good.
I want to get a small Bullshark and pop the bezel off but I'm afraid that makes the watch vulnerable???

 

Love the idea of this. I have a Muhle SAR with a rubber bezel but I was looking for a diving watch without one initially. I’m looking forward to what people post.

 

What’s the definition of a diver? Depth rating? Surely it’s not the shape of the indices. For me a diver always has a rotating bezel (yes, yes, I’m aware of Omega Marine but we’ve moved on from then).

 

I'm sure someone more knowledgeable than me will reply, but at face value, (to my logic anyway, I'd say):
-Water resistance 20ATM or above
-generous/ long-lasting lume to be visible for extended periods
-a bezel or some means of setting a visual timing reference for time under/ assentation.
-a diver's bracelet or strap, (i.e. no leather).

Of course you CAN dive w/ anything you'd like - it just might not handle the task as well as a dedicated tool, and/or make it back, ha.

 

For me there are sport watches !

A real diver watch fulfils the ISO 6425 or DIN 8306 standard.

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For me there are sport watches !

A real diver watch is ISO 6425 or DIN 8306 certified .

https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:std:iso:6425:ed-4:v1:en

Neither Rolex Sub or Blancpain 50 Fathoms have this certification.

 

There should be no ambiguity with this one:

As much as I don't like the design Panerai was born as a diver's watch.

Greetings
Eryk

 

There should be no ambiguity with this one:

The Rolex Deep Sea Special was not designed as a diver's watch, but as an experimental watch that would demonstrate that it could survive the deep dive record on the outside of a submarine.

As much as I don't like the design Panerai was born as a diver's watch.

The Panerai was designed as a waterproof watch for combat swimmers, it too is not a diver's watch in the sense of the word and has never been. In addition, the watch was developed in the 1930s / 1940s and modern diving watches have only existed since the development of the Blancpain Fifty Fathoms and the Rolex Submariner in 1953.

 

I really like Unimatic design! Helberg makes a model called CH1 super bubbly sapphire!

 

Helberg makes a model called CH1 super bubbly sapphire!

lmao what the hell

 

The AT gets my vote.

 

+1

 

I have popped off the bezel of a Vostok once, looked pretty good. I was obviously inspired by colonel Kurtz:

 

I have popped off the bezel of a Vostok once, looked pretty good. I was obviously inspired by colonel Kurtz:

Nice.

I saw that article too... figure that be done to most divers and not affect durability?
I know modern diver bezels can be more complex, and there might be a detent hole left over.

 

 

Damasko DS-30

 

This is the first watch that comes to mind for me when I think non-bezel diver. I will add that this watch is pretty awesome, keeps good time and I am pretty sure bullet proof. Came with a very nice stainless band that I somehow misplaced and am now thinking about ordering another to replace it as I don't care for it as much on the rubber strap. I should add the bracelet it came with wasn't a factory Vostok, rather one that was put on by them over at Vostok-watches24.com, they do some pretty awesome mods

 

I love the simplicity & graphic punch of a diver with the rotating bezel left off.
Toolish & rugged, 40mm and under. No numbers - just a black dial and blobby, lumed indices.

Unsurprisingly there's not a ton I've uncovered - what I've found are below.
Hoping the hivemind can help out.

Tudor Black Bay 36
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Pros: Perfect
Cons: $3k

Unimatic U2
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Pros: Toolish & cheap.
Cons: absurdly tall.


Yema Wristmaster Traveller
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Pros: Got that bezel-freshly-torn-off look, from a dive watch company.
Cons: Bracelet-only

Am I missing any?

How about the bezel-less Arctic from microbrand, Tool Watch Co. Meteorite dial, titanium with scratch resistent coating, etc. There are quite a few of us on WUS waiting for our order so hopefully you'll have real world reviews of it soon!

 

 

EFV-100D.

 

I think a dive watch without a dive bezel is just a watch without a dive bezel. I suppose an argument could be made that it's a skydiving watch or just a field watch. Then again if it's a dive watch without a dive bezel that would make sense since it's not needed to keep track of oxygen...a least that's what I read here

 

It's a bit tough. We used to have nice categories for these sorts of things.

Skin diver. Desk diver.
The term "snorkelling watch" from earlier is still making me laugh. Probably the best description.

Field Watch seems to mean a Bertucci. Sure, tough & no bezel. But with 12 and 24 hour digits crammed into one dial. No thanks

 

 

I think originally it was all about depth tolerance - think Omega Marine and Panerai. However, since the 60s I’d say a bezel is required to be identified as a diver, with the exception of the above for historical reasons. The rest are field or pilot or general sport watches, no matter their water resistance. It’s interesting however that field and pilot watches often blend in terms of aesthetics and whether it gets classified as field or pilot tend to have more to do with the background and marketing of the watchmaker than anything else.

 

Without a bezel, it's not a diver. It's still a nice sport watch.

 

OK, let's play:

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