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#1 ·
Hello,
I am doing research on Brocot for university, but cannot seem to find any information on the internet about the vintage watch brand. I would really appreciate it if you could tell me any information you know in regards to the Brocot brand, as in the target audience (what type of people wore Brocot at the time it was popular), how popular were the wristwatches, how was Brocot different from the other brands or any other relevant information.

Any help would be appreciated.

Kind Regards,
Milana L.
 
#2 · (Edited)
There were two famous clockmakers by the name of Brocot, and they are often confused

Louis-Gabriel Brocot was a well-known Parisian clockmaker, known to have been working between 1820 and 1850. He is most well known for his pin-pallet escapement, which was widely used, often as a visible escapement in French black marble clocks.

Achille Brocot (1817 - 74) was the eldest son of Louis-Gabriel, and he also carried on business in Paris. His most well known improvement to clocks was the adjustable spring pendulum suspension, which enabled the rate of a pendulum clock to be adjusted from the front of the dial. He also designed an effective perpetual calendar mechanism.

The Brocot Pin Pallet Escapement

This escapement was widely used, as a highly decorative, yet easily made addition to the ornamental black marble cased clocks so popular from 1850 onwards. The standard French roulant movement was modified to bring the escapement to the front of the dial, occupying the position just below 12 o'clock. The pallets in this escapement are cylindrical jewel pins, usually deep red in colour, made from agate or cornelian. The pallet arms and escape wheel bridge are formed to ornamental shapes, and highly polished.
The working faces of the pallet pins are cut away to a D-shape - the teeth of the escape wheel fall on the curved surface of the D to provide impulse.
Unfortunately, many of the clocks with this escapement have been badly restored - one often sees the original jewel pins replaced by steel, and the pallets replaced the wrong way round, so that the escape wheel teeth fall on the flat surfaces of the pins.

The Brocot Pendulum Suspension

There is some argument as which of the Brocots actually invented this suspension.
Louis-Gabriel actually took out a patent No. 7880 in 1840) which seems to indicate that the original idea was his, but the improved version designed by Achille Brocot is apparently the one adopted by his father, and both are known to have supplied the improved form of suspension to many other clockmakers, with whom it soon became extremely popular.

The illustration shows that the suspension spring is held in the normal way by a pin at the upper end, but beneath this pin there is a sliding block, slit to embrace the spring. This block can be raised or lowered by a fine screw, which in turn is rotated by a rudimentary bevel gear fixed to an arbor which protrudes through the dial of the clock. The arbor has a square on the end for use with a watch key - in practice, the the keys supplied with these clocks were usually double-ended, to fit both the mainspring arbors and the Brocot adjuster - unfortunately, many of these original keys have now been lost.

Both the Brocot Visible Escapement and the Pendulum Suspension were widely copied, particularly in America, and these versions are usually much inferior in both materials and finish.

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Brocot, Archille and J.B. Delettrez of Paris
This partnership was working at Rue Charlot, Paris. in 1850. In 1851 they exhibited one clock of public prosecutor's office. Delettres took over the partnership in 1870 and the patents held by the partnership were given up to Thieble. Later Ferron Lossow succeeded Delettrez and ran the business from Rue Commines, Paris

AB (mit Stern im Oval)
Image

Louis Achile Brocot
Paris, Frankreich; um 1850-1889
AB (im Stern)
Image

Achille Brocot
Paris, Frankreich; ca. 1850-1889
thanks to mikrolisk
also a look here:http://www.google.it/url?sa=t&rct=j...f/Brocots_v3.pdf&ei=hxKiUeq0O8aROInSgJgJ&usg=AFQjCNGAYnt7Rwuw_bxCzRzSkCQ2QSXIuw

regards enrico
 
#5 ·
There were two famous clockmakers by the name of Brocot, and they are often confused

Louis-Gabriel Brocot was a well-known Parisian clockmaker, known to have been working between 1820 and 1850. He is most well known for his pin-pallet escapement, which was widely used, often as a visible escapement in French black marble clocks.

Achille Brocot (1817 - 74) was the eldest son of Louis-Gabriel, and he also carried on business in Paris. His most well known improvement to clocks was the adjustable spring pendulum suspension, which enabled the rate of a pendulum clock to be adjusted from the front of the dial. He also designed an effective perpetual calendar mechanism.

The Brocot Pin Pallet Escapement

This escapement was widely used, as a highly decorative, yet easily made addition to the ornamental black marble cased clocks so popular from 1850 onwards. The standard French roulant movement was modified to bring the escapement to the front of the dial, occupying the position just below 12 o'clock. The pallets in this escapement are cylindrical jewel pins, usually deep red in colour, made from agate or cornelian. The pallet arms and escape wheel bridge are formed to ornamental shapes, and highly polished.
The working faces of the pallet pins are cut away to a D-shape - the teeth of the escape wheel fall on the curved surface of the D to provide impulse.
Unfortunately, many of the clocks with this escapement have been badly restored - one often sees the original jewel pins replaced by steel, and the pallets replaced the wrong way round, so that the escape wheel teeth fall on the flat surfaces of the pins.

The Brocot Pendulum Suspension

There is some argument as which of the Brocots actually invented this suspension.
Louis-Gabriel actually took out a patent No. 7880 in 1840) which seems to indicate that the original idea was his, but the improved version designed by Achille Brocot is apparently the one adopted by his father, and both are known to have supplied the improved form of suspension to many other clockmakers, with whom it soon became extremely popular.

The illustration shows that the suspension spring is held in the normal way by a pin at the upper end, but beneath this pin there is a sliding block, slit to embrace the spring. This block can be raised or lowered by a fine screw, which in turn is rotated by a rudimentary bevel gear fixed to an arbor which protrudes through the dial of the clock. The arbor has a square on the end for use with a watch key - in practice, the the keys supplied with these clocks were usually double-ended, to fit both the mainspring arbors and the Brocot adjuster - unfortunately, many of these original keys have now been lost.

Both the Brocot Visible Escapement and the Pendulum Suspension were widely copied, particularly in America, and these versions are usually much inferior in both materials and finish.

----------------------------------------------------------------

Brocot, Archille and J.B. Delettrez of Paris
This partnership was working at Rue Charlot, Paris. in 1850. In 1851 they exhibited one clock of public prosecutor's office. Delettres took over the partnership in 1870 and the patents held by the partnership were given up to Thieble. Later Ferron Lossow succeeded Delettrez and ran the business from Rue Commines, Paris
AB (mit Stern im Oval)
Image
Louis Achile BrocotParis, Frankreich; um 1850-1889
AB (im Stern)
Image
Achille BrocotParis, Frankreich; ca. 1850-1889
thanks to mikrolisk
also a look here:http://www.google.it/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=brocot%20paris%20horlogerie&source=web&cd=7&ved=0CGQQFjAG&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nawcc69.org%2Fpdf%2FBrocots_v3.pdf&ei=hxKiUeq0O8aROInSgJgJ&usg=AFQjCNGAYnt7Rwuw_bxCzRzSkCQ2QSXIuw

regards enrico
Enrico
I am impressed
I searched my records and came up with nothing.
Thats a lot you dug up.

For wristwatches, really I found nothing
Regards
 
#3 · (Edited)
Well, in 1994 Eric Loth filed a US trademark application for Brocot Propte, but looks like they never followed up on the registration, and it was canceled in 2003. They also filed a Swiss trademark registration, which was transfered to "Onion Star Company Anstalt in Liechtenstein in 1999.

That's the modern stuff. Historically, the name comes from Louis-Gabriel Brocot, who invented the Brocot Escapement (an escapement is the part of the watch or clock that transfers the power of the mainspring into the balance in a controlled manner). Brocot is linked to Roskopff and the development of the pin pallet escapement (a fixture of low-cost watches the world over).

There are no other Brocot trademarks that I can find off hand, so I suspect the "modern" brocot watches are probably just "typical" watches using an historically significant name to give themselves some semblance of cachet.
 
#6 ·