[EDIT: The original listing got it wrong - it's mineral glass]

Oh, and in my excitement I forgot to mention - sapphire glass!

 

Oh, and in my excitement I forgot to mention - sapphire glass!

Nice! But, where did you get the info? I can't find it.

 

Very nice! I'll stick with my 5 year old Mako for now, as the day pusher never bothered me and the movement is rock solid, but this looks a nice step up in quality. Sapphire crystal, too!

 

umm... i guess i'll be the first to be "that guy" I'm not in love with this.. I think it looks more like an invicta or other sub homages now.. and I don't care for that.

being left handed i don't care about the crown(s) because they aren't facing my wrist anyways... but unless I buy a sub..I don't want my divers to look like they are trying to be subs... my .02

 

Personally I don't think the Mako looks anything like a Sub, even without the pusher. Each to their own.

 

I used to hate the pusher...and now I find myself thinking it doesn't look right without it.

Also, I feel like this probably explains the fire sales at Amazon on these watches...they used to be a good bargain even at $100-120, but recently they've moved tons of them at WELL under $100. Like, 60-70 bucks.

 

I always used to hate the pusher. Add in a hacking movement and a sapphire crystal, it looks a major improvement over the old Mako.
Though I wonder how this differs from the Mako USA.

 

But will the Mako lume be as good as the Ray lume? That is the question. And the second pusher makes the case distinctive for me.

 

Unfortunately it's priced like the Mako USA, but appears to have some of the upgrades.

I'd be curious to see if it has the Mako USA lume and 120 click bezel, since it already has the sapphire upgrade. Unfortunately it looks like the case lacks the drilled-through lugs and the bracelet has folded end links, so it may be halfway in-between in terms of feature set... except for the superior movement.

I've never had a problem with the Mako (original) lume in relation to the Ray. The Ray may edge it out very slightly, but it has larger applied lume areas. In any case, the Mako's top 5 in lume for me, and I few quite a few that are not shabby.

I'm also pleased that they did the black variant, as I only have the Mako in Pepsi. It's already really hard to not 'collect the whole family' and this gives me a distinctly different variant.

This is big news-- I'm hoping it's not just a modified 4R36, but a movement that's fully competitive with the 4R36 in <$200 watches puts Orient in a very good position.

 

OverSteer,

You are right. The Mako lume is not bad. But it can always be improved. An in house Orient movement would seem logical since they manufacture their own movements. Do they use other manufacturers movements for some of their other watches?

 

Being part of the Epson side of the Seiko-Epson conglomerate, they have been known to use Seiko's quartz chronograph movements (since they're a brand that specializes in automatics but still wants to cater to quartz buyers.) I'm not familiar enough with their very few 3-hander quartz to say who makes those movements.

The day/date arrangement doesn't look like it's going to be a 4R36 variant. Don't get me wrong-- I like the 4R36, but I like the feel of Orient's current non-hacking movements as well. I like that they have distinct feel from one another and welcome the competition.

 

Always been a fan of the makos and had two of em. Curious about this new movement.

 

Hmmmmm.

I like the day pusher. Gives it a more distinct look. Now it just fades into what most other dive like watches look like.

I'll keep my Mako USA and Mako XL over these.


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Hmmmmm.

I like the day pusher. Gives it a more distinct look. Now it just fades into what most other dive like watches look like.

I'll keep my Mako USA and Mako XL over these.

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Yeah... This.

I like the looks of the current Mako and Ray, including the pusher. Although the addition of hacking and hand winding would have been nice. Along with a sapphire crystal. Other than that, I was pretty happy with the way they looked.

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I don't dislike the day pushers on the Orient in particular, I just don't like my watches to have additional pushers in general.

This certainly comes as good news to me as I can probably add one of them to my collection soon.

 

Yes! I'll definitely have one.

 

I wonder if Orient will start rolling out this new movement onto the older diver models. I haven't found any additional details on the new movement, if it's an upgrade to the current 46943 or a whole new movement.

If I were to guess it's probably a whole new movement because the date pusher is gone.

 

Hmm I kinda think the pusher needs to be there now I see it without!

-whoa-

 

Excellent! The day pusher alone always prevented me from buying one. Now with the addition of sapphire and hacking, as long the price is still sensible, I'll be adding a blue ray to the collection and no doubt.

Excuse the ignorance but isn't the bezel already coin edge? As opposed to scalloped like a monster, or I dunno, an invicta 8926 that isn't coin edged? Looks like it to me.

 

Excuse the ignorance but isn't the bezel already coin edge? As opposed to scalloped like a monster, or I dunno, an invicta 8926 that isn't coin edged? Looks like it to me.

A coin edge is exactly that - like the edge of a coin, which is perpendicular to the face, with very little curve between. The Mako/Ray has a curved bezel edge, which flows on from the curved bezel insert. In my opinion that makes it a lot dressier, whereas a coin edge is a lot more toolish.

Also, the Mako/Ray does have a scalloped bezel - the scallops are just smaller than those on the Monster.

Here's a Murphy coin edge bezel on a Seiko SKX:

Compared with the Ray:

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I have to say, I'm pretty disappointed it doesn't look like the new Mako has sapphire glass. Why they would introduce a major upgrade to the movement and arguably the case, but not upgrade the crystal, is beyond me.

 

I have always found the day pusher something that distinguishes the Mako and Ray. I realize it is a personal preference issue, but I prefer the looks and price of the original model.


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I prefer the day pusher too...I think i just will put a sapphire in my Ray and keep it.

 

Good looking watch! I like the look of milsub watches.

 

Do you happen to know if Orient do/plan to do the new model in Pepsi because the Pepsi Mako is pretty enough to fetch the proverbial ducks off the water and if it was available in the new style I'd be a goner.

 

I have a blue Mako and like it much better then this new model. I think it needs the pusher and looks WAY better with it. I could careless about hand wind/hack as I don't use either feature. I actually wouldnt buy the new model

 

I can live without sapphire if it means the price doesn't go up (too much - hacking is still an upgrade).

I wonder if any of the modders will sell dummy day pushers and epoxy resin to glue onto the case in the 2 o'clock position, for all those who will miss it

 

I guess I have a new found appreciation for the date pusher on my ray. Excited about the bezel mod

 

Hand winding and hacking is nice, but I like the look and price of the old Mako. I just ordered an orange one, and it seems the new one is not available in orange. So when mine arrives in the mail, I'll be happy to keep it and not send it back for the new one.

 

Wow! Those sound like some pretty significant advances. I wonder how it will effect pricing for the long term...

 

I was really tempted by this until they corrected the typo on the sapphire crystal. Still somewhat tempting though.