When I need Accutron information, I go to Jarett Harkness (unwindintime@gmail.com, Sales and Service of Hamilton Electric Watches, Accutrons & Others or About Unwind In Time). Also, Rob Berkavicius (fotoplot@iinet.net.au). Jarett is in Texas and Rob is in Bankok, Thailand. I purchased a couple of 214 series Accutrons from Jarett, including a Spaceview. Rob serviced two of my 214s and did a superb job.

Later the same day - 12-29-23 - I just traded emails with Rob and am extremely pleased to hear that he is doing fine. I didn't list his Accutron website before because my link didn't work. I asked Rob about this, and he responded:

"My old Accutron Watch Page website has gone, since my ISP decided to stop hosting webpages (without telling anyone). However, it is not lost, but I have moved it to a new site which is: www.accutronwatchpage.com. My email address will keep working, but I do have a new one too: rob.b@accutronwatchpage.com."

This is great because Rob shares years of Accutron knowledge, material and references. Take a look at it. Of particular interest in Keagghan's case is Rob's section on "Is my watch a Conversion or Real Spaceview" - https://www.accutronwatchpage.com/accspace.htm.

 

The "Wrong Hands" - aren't - depending on the date of the watch. Bulova was using those hands in those colors around 1971-72.

That's a 1970 SpaceView from the factory.. the hands are that size and color I suspect because someone at Bulova realized the thin metal hands/second-hand simply can't be easily seen on a SpaceView against the dark green and metal background. I believe the one above is from a factory ad from the era.

This one is of mine:

That's a 1971 with the "Cushion" case and an alligator band (original Accutron, marked inside it..) It looks even better in person.

I do agree with you on the 2nd one. The hands are the same as the 1970-73 watches, but if you notice - the hands on the 70-73 watches are exactly the length (hour and second) to reach the outer chapter ring. The hands on the one you're looking at go past the hour markers, which appear to be part of the chapter ring.

I've seen photos of watches where this happened when someone with excellent coping saw skills (and small files) takes a standard dial and basically cuts out the middle, leaving the hour markers in place. I do not think that combination ever came from the factory. If you like that look and you want a 214 movement - keep looking - the 1970-73 ones do pop up occasionally. I was quite pleased when I got mine - the eBay auction photos made it look awful, in real life it's pretty stunning actually. I really have to take a better photo of it.

 

This is my 1974 original spaceview.

 

And again - your minute and second hands go right to the chapter ring and no further (or less..)

 

Before this thread goes astray, I reluctantly will post this as the original picture in question will be answered. I already PM'ed the OP member with other pertinent facts with one small possible anomaly (Gold Pillar Plate on a 1967 watch?). Those Gold Pillar plates weren't generally seen until the transition years of 1968/1969 and since that watch is a 1967, it (may) be a replacement. No way to tell unless you pull the caseback and look at the plate stampings. The OP Swiss Spaceview Chapter Ring is legit. 28102 is the Bulova Style Number and most Swiss accutrons don't have Model names. Your case is probably a variant of the 316 case.

Very useful Spaceview facts on this Spaceview-only website(created by a good friend )

Accutron Spaceview watches

 

Before this thread goes astray, I reluctantly will post this as the original picture in question will be answered. I already PM'ed the OP member with other pertinent facts with one small possible anomaly (Gold Pillar Plate on a 1967 watch?). Those Gold Pillar plates weren't generally seen until the transition years of 1968/1969 and since that watch is a 1967, it (may) be a replacement. No way to tell unless you pull the caseback and look at the plate stampings. The OP Swiss Spaceview Chapter Ring is legit. 28102 is the Bulova Style Number and most Swiss accutrons don't have Model names
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Very useful Spaceview facts on this Spaceview-only website(created by a good friend )

Accutron Spaceview watches

Excellent info! I am quite frequently thinking about getting a SpaceView. I would get a reissue watch if only it was 40mm or less but at the present size it looks ridiculously big to my eyes. So I am coming back to the vintage but I am not sure vintage original are durable to last as somewhat daily watch (frequently used). This brings me to rebuild (converted) watches: tempting but I am not sure I am interested in not a factory watch (just some mental condition that wants me to only get factory models). So am back to square one: waiting for a remake with a more modest size.

 

Great discussion!

And... you'll likewise discern that my "Mudview" isn't original, but a hammage of sorts

 

Great discussion!

And... you'll likewise discern that my "Mudview" isn't original, but a hammage of sorts

Well we know that is the famous Turtle Lug case 2362 which had several famous Models (Spaceview "B" Yellow Dot, Model 205/206 and RailRoad Model 201.

The issue with that case is there is no doubt that a few other Models were produced and any factual images or advertisements of them are either non-existent or just haven't surfaced as of today. As you can see in the 2362 case info above, there are callouts of (2) Special (I) models but I have never seen one that was labeled as such. (I own the Model 201 and Model 206 and 4 Spaceview B yellow Dots.
So having said that, the only thing I can go on with your 'hommage' would be two things.
1. Those Dauphine Hands look aftermarket. (If the tips of the hour hand and second hand are NOT bent /pointed down at the tips, they are not original Bulova hands. They don't look like it from the pics but confirmation is always better than guessing.
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2. For the most part when you are talking original factory Accutron watch dial hand combos, if the dial has some sort of Lume on it either small Dots or maybe a thin strip that is lume as markers, then it's a good bet that the Hands (Must) be luminous also. That is generally how Bulova made the dail/hand combo. Either both were Luminous as a set or neither were Luminous. From the looks of your watch, the hands are Luminous and the dial doesn't appear to have any Lume on it. So they are mismatched and if the hands are aftermarket as I described above and the dial hand lume is not consistent on both, you most likely have a mix-and-match accutron.

 

Found a great page with photos of Spaceview 214 watches - as new from the factory, there are quite a few, but nothing like the concoction shown above..

https://electric-watches.co.uk/makers/accutron/accutron-214/ - 214 models (quite a few spaceview variants)
https://electric-watches.co.uk/makers/accutron/accutron-218/ - 218 models (no spaceview - weren't they a thing?)

Hopefully, it's acceptable to post another website's link info here..

 

Hello guys thank you so much for all your answers and information, I've got a lot of reading to do! Time to go down the rabbit hole