I moved your post and made it into it's own thread to avoid hijacking someone else's thread.

I think you're having trouble identifying this watch because it is not authentic.

 

Could probably use more pictures of different angles taken by a better camera.

 

Despite the terrible photo, it's safe to say this is a fake.

 

Hi all,

thanks for all the comments, i will get some better pictures.

How can we tell its a fake one? is it because you cant find the model number?

hang on i will drop the pictures in a min.

thanks guys, much appreciated

Graham

 

Hi all,

thanks for all the comments, i will get some better pictures.

How can we tell its a fake one? is it because you cant find the model number?

hang on i will drop the pictures in a min.

thanks guys, much appreciated

Graham

Where do you start???

Dont need more pics, just do an image search for a PP case back and compare it to what you have.

 

it almost looks like a cheap richard lange copy and then they made a mistake with the brand name LOL

 

First of all, in before lock

Secondly, I don't get these watch authenticators and what they're trying to achieve. I see two different types:

1) They find a high-end brand name watch in the basement or they inherit one. Well, if it was the real deal, the family member would've let you know loong before he/she passes away. Also, $10K+ watches don't just get swept into the basement.

2) They found a good deal somewhere on the web. Well, if the item is priced at a ridiculously low amount like a couple hundred dollars, one has to know that it's absolutely fake. Who sells a real Patek for $300? If the price is the same as the actual watch, then why on earth you deal with creepy people, if you have $10-20K to spend for a watch? Go buy new from AD, or go buy used from other reliable sources. If you are smart enough to sock away that much cash, you should be smart enough to find out where to buy a second hand watch. You obviously don't buy it from a "dude" standing in the corner of an alley.

I think these are all trolls, but nothing more. I am now questioning the 10 minutes I spent on this thread reading and writing messages.

 

Terrible case finishing, engravings even worse and this movement is definitely not a Patek or whatsoever.

And it's always a one or two posts user that comes with these "authentication help" threads...

 

It is a really bad fake

The brand is petak phellepi not patek phillipe

Sorry to say

See attached picture for the real patek quality

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It is a really bad fake

The brand is petak pheleppi not patek philippe

Sorry to say

See attached picture for the real patek quality

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I'm guessing you are not the person taking those pictures? It looks like it's purposely taken out of focus, with poor lighting and with a very poor quality camera to try to mask the poor craftsmanship.

An Iphone 3 takes better shots than that. If the guy can't even afford a decent camera from this decade, what makes you think he can afford a real PP?

 

Just added some new pictures.

- I understand people may think why and it looks a little strange posting this on a forum, but i received it from someone who passed away
i do not attend to ask them as that looks even worse i like to check myself before referring to my family. (Believe it or not i respect your opinion)
- Brand is Patek Philippe (PATEK PHILIPPE SA - Home) i dont know why you are saying that the real thing is Philippi??
- Just looking for people who know what they are talking about, if you have a bad attitude then dont reply to my question you dont have to and i think this forum is not made
for these kind of comments, if i'm wrong then so be it.

Thanks for the comments!

Graham

 

For one, the movement seems too small for your watch.

Can't find the geneva seal

The second hand design is inconsistent with the hour and minute hand.

For a patek watch, there should be more writing on the movement than the brand name


Picture is too blurry so I can't see other thing well

 

Awful strap with pleather coming undone, model reference that does not exists, awful movement decoration with patek brand positioned in a ridiculous way, looks nothing like a real patek. And most importantly questionable providence. Yeah - it's a bad fake (not that there are good fakes)

And the fact that these show up on google image search on a bunch of replica sites does not help either....
Lets lock this one up.

 

I'm really confused as to why an administrator on this forum has moved this thread from elsewhere when it is clearly a fake? Have the rules changed under new ownership and can fakes be discussed? Or did the site administrator simply not recognise this watch was a replica? Serious question by the way - not belittling the admin.

PS - Here's a picture of what one of my Patek movements looks like. You'll spot the difference OP.

 

Hi,

I was wondering if you could help a newbie out with identifying whether this is an authentic or fake Patek. According to the serial number it should be from 1925-1930. I'm looking to buy it for my fiancee as a wedding gift. Any help would be very appreciated. Thanks!

 

Hi,

I was wondering if you could help a newbie out with identifying whether this is an authentic or fake Patek. According to the serial number it should be from 1925-1930. I'm looking to buy it for my fiancee as a wedding gift. Any help would be very appreciated. Thanks!

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That has a better chance of being legit than does the one the OP posted. It's a very old (looking?) piece and it's showing its age, but a quick glance suggests it might be on the up and up.

All the best.

 

Two fakes in one thread? Is this a record?

IBTL.

 

I think it's a fake because I have never seen one PP movement that has the Patek Philippe name and Geneve on separate bridges.

All the best.

 

This thread is still open?

 

that second piece could be real, tho. Thats from their pre in house era, so that might be the reason why its inconsistent with what people are used to.
When lange and Söhne was producing watches in geneve, their movements looked quite similar.

but how about that diamond bezel? has this been common at that time?

 

that second piece could be real, tho. Thats from their pre in house era, so that might be the reason why its inconsistent with what people are used to.
When lange and Söhne was producing watches in geneve, their movements looked quite similar.

but how about that diamond bezel? has this been common at that time?

I think it's a woman's watch. I don't believe diamonds have ever been uncommon on high end ladies' watches.

All the best.

 

No good style to hijack a thread.