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I'd like to get this Citizen Minute Repeater fixed.

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#1 ·
My favorite watch of all time (owned it for 20 years) is in need (or so says the repair depot) of a new movement. I am told this particular movement is no longer available.

Am I hearing the truth? Or is there still someone, somewhere, that can fix this for me?

My watch looks almost exactly like this one. This is just a slightly different version:

 
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A new movement? What happend to the current one, unless its all rusted together or some other catastrophic event why would it need a new movement?

Try getting a second opinion. Like Mike said you could try to source a donor watch.
 
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I am obviously no expert - but this is a quartz movement, which unlike an automatic, is pretty much all electronic. I don't believe repair centers actually try to "repair" quartz movements -- if they are bad, they toss em and put in new ones. At least that is what I think happens. Surely someone here with more experience can confirm?

And a quick question - what exactly do you mean by "try to source a donor"? I'm kind of new at dealing with watch people -- thanks
 
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I am impressed with the likeness of this Accurist watch to the Citizen. Pretty remarkable actually. However, I suspect that close is not good enough. I cannot imagine a seamless interchange of the two movements from two different manufacturers. I could be wrong -- anyone with inside knowledge care to comment?

But -- thank you for finding this close comparison. I am going to contact Accurist and see if they will let me know what is possible.
 
#6 ·
Quartz watches contain several different components which can be repaired or replaced.
I think the movement you have is the Miyota 6760, here is a link to the tech manual.​
http://www.watchuseek.com/seikocitizen/Citizen_Technical_Manuals/6760.pdf



Sounds like the watchmaker you took it to does not think it's worth his time or your money to follow that route and suggested that you just get a whole new movement. Probably a sound approach, without more information on how he came to that conclusion it wouldn't satisfy me.

This Bulova looks very similar and may be another option.

BULOVA GRAND COMPLICATION WATCH - YouTube
Bulova Millennia 96C21 Men's Minute Repeater Time Zones Perpetual Calendar Alarm Watch | Ashford.com
Bulova Bulova Millennia Grand Complication Minute Repeater from Gem of the Day

I would still be incline to try to find out why the watchmaker you took it to thinks the entire movement needs replaced.
 
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#7 · (Edited)
Quartz watches contain several different components which can be repaired or replaced.
I think the movement you have is the Miyota 6760, here is a link to the tech manual.​
http://www.watchuseek.com/seikocitizen/Citizen_Technical_Manuals/6760.pdf

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Sounds like the watchmaker you took it to does not think it's worth his time or your money to follow that route and suggested that you just get a whole new movement. Probably a sound approach, without more information on how he came to that conclusion it wouldn't satisfy me.

This Bulova looks very similar and may be another option.

BULOVA GRAND COMPLICATION WATCH - YouTube
Bulova Millennia 96C21 Men's Minute Repeater Time Zones Perpetual Calendar Alarm Watch | Ashford.com
Bulova Bulova Millennia Grand Complication Minute Repeater from Gem of the Day

I would still be incline to try to find out why the watchmaker you took it to thinks the entire movement needs replaced.
This certainly opens up some possibilities - so thanks for your leads. One thing, after watching the Bulova video, they mentioned extreme care when replacing the battery. I had a similar event with a SEIKO Sports 150 Yachting Timer, where the Jeweler didn't know what he was doing. After a nice informative call with the SEIKO Repair center, they mentioned how when changing the battery, you had to short out twice (with conductive tweezers) the AC terminal of the circuit block and the battery clamp. There was a work-around way IF the watch was fully assembled by depressing two of the buttons for >3secs. My watch was instantly fixed by my having pursued it. So I am FIRST going to investigate this battery thing and see if something similar applies with the Minute Repeater, and then barring that, I will follow up with your other leads. The Bulova movement, which he mentioned was the same as the Citizen Calebre model (I believe that is what he said it was) was from a later model than my Minute Repeater. However -- perhaps it doesn't matter. I am excited that there are now avenues I can pursue. Thanks again!!

Update -- I just looked at your pdf techincal link and -- Whoa - that IS my watch. Or almost. On page 3, the various moving pieces are pretty much exact with the exception of an OFF/ON indicator (my watch lacks that). The bezel is exactly the same (including the XII at the top). There is also a slight change with the Roman numerals on the face. Other than that -- it is very close. I am on my way, thanks again!
 
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You are welcome, let us know how it turns out.

Looks like a neat watch I can see how you got attached to it.
 
#9 ·
I'm kind of laughing as I just got my magnifying glass out and I actually found the ON/OFF indicator scrunched between the 8 and 9 o'clock numerals. So -- this is definitely the right movement. My part number on the back of the watch confirms it as 6760-G70455. The only technical manual is 6760, so it must be the one. I am picking up the phone now.
 
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I can see this is going to be an ordeal. I called the main Citizen repair center in California - they are the ones that sent it back a year ago saying they could not repair it because the movement was not available. So today, I talked at length to a lady and she looked up the module number and basically repeated what they said a year ago. I asked her if I were to find another module somewhere, would they put it in for me? She said no -- it has to be a Citizen 6760 module. (The pdf link you gave me Nebuch shows it to be a Citizen file.)

So then I called HURLEY ROBERTS SERVICE COMPANY in Georgia - they are another Citizen Repair center that I've used before. However, you can no longer talk to a live person. They will only receive messages via a message or an email. I also sent them an email explaning what I was after, and I got back a "standard" reply telling me that I am going to have send them the watch. Before I waste my time though, I would sure like to get a yes or no as to whether they still have a movement for the watch. If all else fails, I will probably send them the watch just on the chance they can fix it.

But -- unless I read the links wrong -- it seems like the 6760 movement is used in other brand watches. What do you think my chances are in getting another brand repair center to work on this Citizen watch?

The Bulova model has exactly the same functions -- but looking at the specs from the link, the movement is made in China.

http://www.ashford.com/ashford/browse/productDetail.jsp?productId=96C21&categoryId=cat5001

 
#11 ·
3rd party repair center will probably be your best bet.

Send it in and see what they say. Not having a lot of experience with quartz repair, I'm not sure if it's normal to replace entire movements.
 
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3rd party repair center will probably be your best bet.

Send it in and see what they say. Not having a lot of experience with quartz repair, I'm not sure if it's normal to replace entire movements.
I talked to the Bulova Repair in Calif and they have agreed to see what can be done with a possible swap-out with the Bulova movement. So, I am going to probably send it them tomorrow. Worst case, I am only out $12 plus shipping.
 
#12 ·
You might contact Startimesupply and give them the Citizen module number and see if they have one that matches that module, if they do at least then you'd have the movement.
 
#14 ·
I used their interactive website and they don't carry the movement for this watch.
Thanks for the idea though.
 
#15 ·
Hello everyone, my first post here. Just purchased a Citizen 6067 just like the one in the picture at the top. Works great, chimes and accurate time keeping, really pleased. But I do need to do some work on it. The C button came off and the date dial is jumpy. As I try to get the movement out of the case, I can't get the stem out. I seem to have found where to press when the crown is in position 3 (fully out) but when I press the lever that shows up in that position, I still can't get the stem out, just don't want to force it out or press the lever too hard in case I'm missing something. Any help greatly appreciated.