I’d go with the SW200 because I prefer autos to hand crankers and like to stick with what I know brand wise.

 

Yup. SW200 for me as well.

 

Personally, I'm a hand wind guy. Nothing wrong with an automatic but it can't beat the tactile feel of winding a watch.

 

Sellita SW200. Tried, true, reliable and accurate.

 

Get the SW210 if you want a a hand winder as that's the only difference between the 210 and 200 (I don't know if AnOdrain use a slimmer caseback onn the watch if you go with a non-automatic... if they don't then I don't really see any advantage to not getting an automatic).

The SW200-1 and the G100 are both drop in replacements for ETA 2824. The big difference is that the g100 claims to have a 68 hour power reserve compared to the 38 hour reserve on the SW200 and ETA 2824. In theory this means that most watch makers should be able to work on them and easily source most of the replacement parts or simply replace it with one of the three movements, but in practice some watchmakers may be reluctant to work on (or charge more to work on) the G100, whereas any competent watchmaker could work on or replace a sellita easily. The SW200 is also kind of the ubiquitous swiss automatic movement now for a ton of non-SWATCH companies - it's found in everything from Tudor and Oris entry level models to microbrands like Halios and Farer.

Joux Perret's movements are fairly new so there isn't a ton of data on how well they perform in the long-run, but the tear downs of them look like they are very well made. SW200s can be kind of underwhelming - it's a good, reliable movement most of the time but they're not remarkable at all and the general consensus is that they're just fine.

99.99% of people will not know the difference between the sw200 or the g100 during the lifetime ownership of their watch, other than the g100 being able to sit on your bedside table longer without running out of juice, particularly since its a watch with a solid caseback. The g100 is a more "special" movement since it is new and not widely used yet, but is the feeling of having something a little bit special plus more power reserve worth $300 for you? That's your call.


Edit: I originally overstated the similarities between the g100 and 2824. It's a drop in replacement but it looks like it is not a clone and does not use compatible parts.

 

Get the SW210 if you want a a hand winder as that's the only difference between the 210 and 200 (I don't know if AnOdrain use a slimmer caseback onn the watch if you go with a non-automatic... if they don't then I don't really see any advantage to not getting an automatic).

The SW200-1 and the G100 are both based off the architecture of the ETA 2824. The big difference is that the g100 claims to have a 68 hour power reserve compared to the 38 hour reserve on the SW200 and ETA 2824. In theory this means that most watch makers should be able to work on them and easily source most of the replacement parts, but in practice some watchmakers may be reluctant to work on (or charge more to work on) the G100, whereas any competent watchmaker could work on or replace a sellita easily. The SW200 is also kind of the ubiquitous swiss automatic movement now for a ton of non-SWATCH companies - it's found in everything from Tudor and Oris entry level models to microbrands like Halios and Farer.

Joux Perret's movements are fairly new so there isn't a ton of data on how well they perform in the long-run, but the tear downs of them look like they are very well made. SW200s can be kind of underwhelming - it's a good, reliable movement most of the time but they're not remarkable at all and the general consensus is that they're just fine.

99.99% of people will not know the difference between the sw200 or the g100 during the lifetime ownership of their watch, other than the g100 being able to sit on your bedside table longer without running out of juice, particularly since its a watch with a solid caseback. The g100 is a more "special" movement since it is new and not widely used yet, but is the feeling of having something a little bit special plus more power reserve worth $300 for you? That's your call.

This is great information. Like others have said, the benefit of a hand wind is the slimmer movement over an automatic. If this is not the case with them, then go with the automatic. I did read that Anordain is coming out with a new generation of case’s this year and that may mean new dial options also, so you may want to wait for the new stuff if they are your choice.

 

The SW210 for me assuming anOrdain will make the watch case slimmer as a result of using the handwind version. It's cheaper to begin with and will be easy for third party watchmakers to service.
The G100 is very interesting and tempting just to have a different movement within the collection but is yet an unknown quantity.

 

The only movement I have ever had to have maintenance on is one of my 2 SW200s, for issues commonly noted for that movement. I’m not open to any more watches with that movement going forward. Good luck.

 

I am not a fan of SW200s, and agree with this. So, my vote would be SW210. As a hand cranker, less parts to go wrong, should be less to service too. Vance.

 

I'm inclined to handwound. It would be an ETA 2801 clone. Less to go wrong. No reverser wheels.

 

Both the Sellita's SW200 and the SW210 are fine movements. And if anyone tells you they have had issues with either of those movements, I will always take the position the problem lies with them and not with the movement itself.

As for which of the three I would choose, I would choose the anOrdain with a La Joux Perret G100 movement. Why this would be is because anOrdain must feel pretty confident about the movement or else they would not risk the reputation of their company with such a movement. Plus, you will have a watch with a movement built around the latest technology the industry has to offer; whereas, it could be argued the SW200 and SW210 are built on yesterday's technology.

 

{quietly soaking this all in}

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I'd be inclined to go with the LJP movement just because it's somethying different. However...

There's a thread elsewhere in the forum where a poster makes a very convincing case for the movement being little more than a tarted-up Miyota 9-series. Same architecture, locations of jewels, design of balance cock, etc. I've got nothing against the 9-series - it's a fine movement - but I don't think a bit of added machine finishing on the LJP justifies the price difference.

 

There's a thread elsewhere in the forum where a poster makes a very convincing case for the movement being little more than a tarted-up Miyota 9-series.

😁

 

The SW200 has a known issue with hand winding the movement, right? Otherwise seems quite bulletproof. So if it's a watch that you will wear often (thus not needed to be hand wound to start back up) or you keep this is mind and just shake it a couple of times to start it up instead of manually winding, that's the one I'd go for.

 

210 if it results in a smaller watch. Otherwise LJP. Mainly because with the backing of Citizen and Citizen using it to make movements in their brands and offering it to third parties, I can see LJP at least staying in business and producing parts for the long term. Sellita still worries me in the long run without being part of a big conglomerate because that's how businesses work now. And other than LJP, movement makers like Minvera get bought up to be 1st party movements, not 3rd part.

That said, there's enough ETA and Sellita out there to salvage parts from for decades.

 

I can't imagine a likely scenario where watchmakers may need to salvage old parts. Due to sheer numbers already in existing watches there will be demand for service parts therefore somebody will produce them.

 

Honestly, for me. I don't take movement as 1st consideration, it's probably not even in top 3.

Dial, case, material, size, price, etc are all. more important to me. Especially for the pieces you listed: they're all workhorse generic movements.

 

I am in the same boat...hence my reason for the post to see what others preferred/recommended.

 

SW 210 gets my vote. I have multiple 200s in my collection and don't have any issues with them, but I do prefer to hand wind.

 

I'm a big fan of Citizen and since they recently bought La Joux Perret, I'm sure they're one of the movers behind this current development. As such, if I had the choice, I'd pay a little extra and support Citizen/La Joux Perret. I see it as a chance to get a movement that's the equivalent of the ETA 2824-2 in terms of reliability, but with nearly twice the power reserve.

 

Hand wound for me whenever possible so that one for me please . . .

 

I think the beauty and character of the watch will get more attention and appreciation from you when you handwind the watch.

 

The SW-200 is probably a SW200-1 which has minor changes to improve the wear sometimes occurring when handwringing the movement. I don't have personal experience with theSW-200-1 movement, and It should be a reliable and good running movement as it is based on the tried and true ETA 2824. But I see other movements out there that are more technical and modern but still in watches of a similar price point as what you would find for a watch with the SW-200-1.

 

I would not get the hand wound. I have a Model 1 (rose gold), and it's not the easiest crown to wind or pull out when I need to set the time, so I'm happy it's automatic.
For the options you have, I'd go for the LJP.

 

I have one of each. My sw-200-1 has never been hand wound. One or two shakes and it never stops on wrist and will still be running the next day. Both the automatic and hand wound are very accurate.

 

If it comes slimmer with a handwind, I would go for that because I like time-only watches to handwind; but if you still have the same case then the aesthetic/ergonomic advantage of a handwind movement has been removed and it seems to make less sense.

 

I find it interesting and refreshing that any manufacturer would think to offer different movements in a given watch. But I'd rather see different grades of a given movement rather than a choice of types.

As noted above, not having a rotor (SW210) probably doesn't make a difference in the overall watch as they will just stick the rotorless movement in the same case as the rotor one.

I also see the LJP movement goes for about the same money as a top grade 2824-2 on the souks and while it looks like it sports the same improvements as the top 2824, only the specs will show whether that is true or not. Because it's a Miyota clone, I'd have to see that it could swing a 310 degree amplitude before plopping down any money on it. Low amplitude is the reason Japanese movements are such bad timekeepers and I buy a watch to (wait for it)....



...keep time.

 

I find it interesting and refreshing that any manufacturer would think to offer different movements in a given watch. But I'd rather see different grades of a given movement rather than a choice of types.

As noted above, not having a rotor (SW210) probably doesn't make a difference in the overall watch as they will just stick the rotorless movement in the same case as the rotor one.

I also see the LJP movement goes for about the same money as a top grade 2824-2 on the souks and while it looks like it sports the same improvements as the top 2824, only the specs will show whether that is true or not. Because it's a Miyota clone, I'd have to see that it could swing a 310 degree amplitude before plopping down any money on it. Low amplitude is the reason Japanese movements are such bad timekeepers and I buy a watch to (wait for it)....



...keep time.

The LJP's balance is different from the Miyota. It's also adjusted and regulated to much tighter tolerances (accuracy and posture) than the Miyota.

 

SW200 for sure.

I think its the most user friendly and the most service friendly.

 

^^^ The raw movement is worth maybe $75 more than a Sellita SW200-1. But not exactly comparing apples to apples as the Sellita price I'm quoting is for an elabore grade and the LJP appears to sport top grade components. If that's truly the case, then it's a push.

But I ain't buying one until I see it up on a timegrapher.