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My nightmare with Omega Ploprof 1200m

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#1 · (Edited)
The story starts with my exposure to this beast of a watch in 2016 while meeting a watch enthusiast at an Omega AD. I always had it on the back of my mind but never got around to owning it. 2018 onwards I tried buying it and hunted for it in Dubai, Hong Kong, Macau, Thailand, China etc., but was informed that it's discontinued. When Covid hit the world, I came to know of one piece being available in a different state in India. Sight unseen I bought the watch in 2022. It's one watch that everyone should wear on wrist before making a judgement on its fit and comfort. I was in a honeymoon period and stopped wearing my other watches.

Issue 1 - Around February 2021, while I was traveling with this watch, I unscrewed the crown to change the date and the crown came out away from the case. I took it back to Omega Service Center (it comes directly under Swatch corporate) for repairs. They took it under warranty and returned to me after a few weeks after repair. I was happy with the turnaround time. They noted some scratches on anti reflective coating on the sapphire. I ignored that due to the honeymoon period. In hindsight, I should have gone after Omega for that. How can a watch within warranty start losing coating like this.

Issue 2 - While setting time one day in 2022, I noticed that the hour hand was not jumping, but rather was moving smoothly. I understood that movement has stopped working properly. I again took it back to the service centre for repairs. This time I also mentioned that bezel seems to not moving properly and the pusher is also too hard to press. I also mentioned that the spring bar at clasp end of the strap had given way once and asked them to check if any spring bar is faulty. After approx. 7 weeks they called me to inform that the watch is ready. I was again happy to get the watch back to start enjoying it again. One strange thing that happened though was I got my watch back in a paper envelope and without any service case (photo attached). After bringing this to attention of Omega HQ (through their website) they arranged to send me the service case.

Issue 3 - While traveling, in February 2023, I noticed that bezel was not moving at all. I again came back to service centre and met the Customer Service Head. This is where a lot of things happened. The most senior guy was unaware of the watch and had no idea on what it was and what the pusher does. I sat down with him to explain the watch and its features. I was annoyed with the way every year I have to visit the service centre for repairing this watch. Then he opened the service history to understand what all had happened in the past. This is where he started trying to put the blame of issues on me. He noted that there were scratches on the case and maybe due to that the crown stem broke. I was dumbfounded by this behaviour for a few seconds. Honestly, this is where I decided to be a little more firm and strict with my interaction that point onwards. Next he checked what was the reason for watch to come to service centre the second time. He noticed that I had mentioned bezel issue that time. But, during service they did nothing to correct or even check that observation. This is where I lost my faith on that service centre team to work on this watch. They basically did not check the case or bezel but simply serviced the movement even after user giving them information about an upcoming issue (which happened BTW within 4-5 months of getting the watch back from service).

Now, he asked me to wait for an engineer to check the watch before making job sheet for me. The engineer pushed down the pusher very hard and showed me that bezel is rotating. It was quite surprising for me as even CS head, at that time almost 20 minutes had passed, had also tried the same and could not move it. I took the watch back in my hand and again, the bezel would not budge. At this time the engineer started telling me that I’m not holding the watch right and am not pushing the pusher as much as is required. When I put a huge amount of force on the pusher, the bezel started moving, but now could not feel the detents and it felt like a free moving bezel. After explaining this in words, he also agreed that there is some issue in the mechanism. It was very demeaning that an engineer is telling a customer how to hold the watch and how to use the pusher and bezel when the customer has been using that watch for almost three years. Again an interaction that gives me zero confidence on the repair department. The competence and skill required to repair this model seems sorely missing from the team of engineers.

When they finally took the watch for repair and made the work order, things moved from weird to bizarre territory.

The form mentioned scratches on crystal and chip on crystal. In Rolex, the crystal sits above the bezel and has a propensity to chip, but in this watch the crystal is flush with bezel and is almost impossible to chip. I insisted that they show me where it is chipped. They took it back and returned after sometime that they were mistaken and it is not chipped. Secondly I asked them to show me the scratches on crystal and they again relented that it’s not scratches on crystal but on anti-reflective coating. Both these observations were removed by them from the work order form. Again, very bad experience this. Tomorrow they could have intentionally or unintentionally scratched or chipped the crystal and blamed it on me. This too inspires no confidence on the people entrusted to work on this watch.

Next the form mentioned plating issue. Since I know there is no plating in this watch, I asked them to show me the issue. I was shocked to see printing issues on the bezel (photo attached). Now, strangely, this printing with luminous material is below a sapphire crystal. When I asked CS head, he said that it could also be user error. Honestly, I was kind of pissed with this response. I then asked them to give me in writing how a user could have caused this issue below a sapphire within warranty.

Post this communication, I called the Omega India Head to discuss this issue and have told them in writing to send this watch to HQ in Switzerland as I don't have any faith on the team in India. He has been non committal on this topic. Strangely, even after filling the contact us form on the Omega website, I have not heard back from them for almost 2 weeks.

Can someone help me with an email address of some person in Omega HQ who could help me solve this issue?

BTW, I'm based in India
 

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#2 ·
OP I can understand why you don't have confidence in your local service center. I wish you luck in getting all the issues with your watch resolved to your satisfaction. To emphasize for everyone else what you had written about the scratches on the AR coating of the crystal you need to question that immediately. Don't let those type of issues linger or they likely won't get resolved in the warranty period. Again, OP I wish you luck.
 
#3 ·
OP I can understand why you don't have confidence in your local service center. I wish you luck in getting all the issues with your watch resolved to your satisfaction. To emphasize for everyone else what you had written about the scratches on the AR coating of the crystal you need to question that immediately. Don't let those type of issues linger or they likely won't get resolved in the warranty period. Again, OP I wish you luck.
I agree fully with what you are saying and have very less hope on that topic. I though am not at all satisfied with their communication and the need to send the watch every year for one repair or another. Hence the need to escalate.

If nothing happens atleast this might help someone. In hindsight all issues can be solved but sometimes such things happen.

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#5 · (Edited)
What a strange story. If you were not receiving work under an official warranty I would have guessed this service center has no official affiliation with Omega.

I don't know if the situation is different in India v. the US but if you contact Omega directly and establish a service requirement, they will send prepaid shipping labels and whatnot for the watch. So all the owner has to do is drop the packaged watch at a postal carrier.

If I were in your situation, I would email omega customer service and explain in a concise manner how you have lost confidence in the local service center. When the conversation continues, outline the specific details and information in a similar manner as your OP.
 
#6 ·
Email address of Omega Customer Service is what I'm still trying to find. On the omega website the only option is to fill the contact us form, which has not helped yet.

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#15 ·
BUMP for requesting help in getting e-mail contact of someone senior up in Omega HQ in Switzerland to allow me to escalate this to correct people and get it solved.
 
#16 ·
I understand you very well. It’s a problem with local authorized service not just in one country…
Maybe local authorized services in UK or US are really good where quality standards are high… however in some other countries…

If you want reaction back quickly, I recommend you to call Switzerland (number in google) and then they should help you to find the best way to send it directly to Switzerland.
 
#17 ·
This is a great Idea. I will call them on Monday during their working hours and see what happens
 
#18 ·
An update...

I finally heard back from Omega HQ in Switzerland. They are arranging to get the watch to them for repair form the India service centre.

Now the very long wait till it gets repaired to proper Omega standards
 
#19 ·
The story starts with my exposure to this beast of a watch in 2016 while meeting a watch enthusiast at an Omega AD. I always had it on the back of my mind but never got around to owning it. 2018 onwards I tried buying it and hunted for it in Dubai, Hong Kong, Macau, Thailand, China etc., but was informed that it's discontinued. When Covid hit the world, I came to know of one piece being available in a different state in India. Sight unseen I bought the watch in 2022. It's one watch that everyone should wear on wrist before making a judgement on its fit and comfort. I was in a honeymoon period and stopped wearing my other watches.

Issue 1 - Around February 2021, while I was traveling with this watch, I unscrewed the crown to change the date and the crown came out away from the case. I took it back to Omega Service Center (it comes directly under Swatch corporate) for repairs. They took it under warranty and returned to me after a few weeks after repair. I was happy with the turnaround time. They noted some scratches on anti reflective coating on the sapphire. I ignored that due to the honeymoon period. In hindsight, I should have gone after Omega for that. How can a watch within warranty start losing coating like this.

Issue 2 - While setting time one day in 2022, I noticed that the hour hand was not jumping, but rather was moving smoothly. I understood that movement has stopped working properly. I again took it back to the service centre for repairs. This time I also mentioned that bezel seems to not moving properly and the pusher is also too hard to press. I also mentioned that the spring bar at clasp end of the strap had given way once and asked them to check if any spring bar is faulty. After approx. 7 weeks they called me to inform that the watch is ready. I was again happy to get the watch back to start enjoying it again. One strange thing that happened though was I got my watch back in a paper envelope and without any service case (photo attached). After bringing this to attention of Omega HQ (through their website) they arranged to send me the service case.

Issue 3 - While traveling, in February 2023, I noticed that bezel was not moving at all. I again came back to service centre and met the Customer Service Head. This is where a lot of things happened. The most senior guy was unaware of the watch and had no idea on what it was and what the pusher does. I sat down with him to explain the watch and its features. I was annoyed with the way every year I have to visit the service centre for repairing this watch. Then he opened the service history to understand what all had happened in the past. This is where he started trying to put the blame of issues on me. He noted that there were scratches on the case and maybe due to that the crown stem broke. I was dumbfounded by this behaviour for a few seconds. Honestly, this is where I decided to be a little more firm and strict with my interaction that point onwards. Next he checked what was the reason for watch to come to service centre the second time. He noticed that I had mentioned bezel issue that time. But, during service they did nothing to correct or even check that observation. This is where I lost my faith on that service centre team to work on this watch. They basically did not check the case or bezel but simply serviced the movement even after user giving them information about an upcoming issue (which happened BTW within 4-5 months of getting the watch back from service).

Now, he asked me to wait for an engineer to check the watch before making job sheet for me. The engineer pushed down the pusher very hard and showed me that bezel is rotating. It was quite surprising for me as even CS head, at that time almost 20 minutes had passed, had also tried the same and could not move it. I took the watch back in my hand and again, the bezel would not budge. At this time the engineer started telling me that I’m not holding the watch right and am not pushing the pusher as much as is required. When I put a huge amount of force on the pusher, the bezel started moving, but now could not feel the detents and it felt like a free moving bezel. After explaining this in words, he also agreed that there is some issue in the mechanism. It was very demeaning that an engineer is telling a customer how to hold the watch and how to use the pusher and bezel when the customer has been using that watch for almost three years. Again an interaction that gives me zero confidence on the repair department. The competence and skill required to repair this model seems sorely missing from the team of engineers.

When they finally took the watch for repair and made the work order, things moved from weird to bizarre territory.

The form mentioned scratches on crystal and chip on crystal. In Rolex, the crystal sits above the bezel and has a propensity to chip, but in this watch the crystal is flush with bezel and is almost impossible to chip. I insisted that they show me where it is chipped. They took it back and returned after sometime that they were mistaken and it is not chipped. Secondly I asked them to show me the scratches on crystal and they again relented that it’s not scratches on crystal but on anti-reflective coating. Both these observations were removed by them from the work order form. Again, very bad experience this. Tomorrow they could have intentionally or unintentionally scratched or chipped the crystal and blamed it on me. This too inspires no confidence on the people entrusted to work on this watch.

Next the form mentioned plating issue. Since I know there is no plating in this watch, I asked them to show me the issue. I was shocked to see printing issues on the bezel (photo attached). Now, strangely, this printing with luminous material is below a sapphire crystal. When I asked CS head, he said that it could also be user error. Honestly, I was kind of pissed with this response. I then asked them to give me in writing how a user could have caused this issue below a sapphire within warranty.

Post this communication, I called the Omega India Head to discuss this issue and have told them in writing to send this watch to HQ in Switzerland as I don't have any faith on the team in India. He has been non committal on this topic. Strangely, even after filling the contact us form on the Omega website, I have not heard back from them for almost 2 weeks.

Can someone help me with an email address of some person in Omega HQ who could help me solve this issue?

BTW, I'm based in India
Just a few quick notes in response:
  • scratches on the outer AR coating is normal wear and tear, you just have to live with it or remove the AR coating completely with something like Polywatch
  • all other issues you reported cannot be blamed on the user and the customer service people should have profusely apologized and offered a speedy repair under warranty
  • contacting Omega through the online form.... let's just say I'd rather pour aftershave on my balls than do that again; like you, I always had to wait 2-3 weeks for what invariably turns out to be a useless reply (usually they just tell you to send it in, without paying any attention to the details of your question/request; but at least they are a lot more courteous than the people you talked to face-to-face)
  • the issue with the damage between the sapphire glass and the bezel is one of the main reasons I decided to get the titanium version of the Ploprof; after studying many examples of preowned steel Ploprofs on Chrono24, I noticed that quite a few had issues with the lume being degraded; I assumed it's because water gets between the bezel base and the sapphire top and causes the degradation over time; it's too bad, because the look is superior imo to the ceramic bezel of the titanium version; should still be fixed under warranty, but the issue might come back later anyway
  • sounds like your best bet for quality customer service is an official Omega Boutique; the people there are usually very knowledgeable, kind and focused on achieving customer satisfaction; depending on where you live, getting to an OB can be quite the hassle and it sucks that this is the length you have to go to to make sure you're treated appropriately

Good luck!
 
#22 ·
I will surely try the polywatch tip once I get back the watch. Still, the AR coating on my Breitling seemed much better after longer use. Maybe there is a difference between the type of coating both these brands use.

Regarding the superiority in look and functionality of the sapphire bezel, there is no denying that. Also, this particular watch saw water (pool etc.) probably twice in almost three years, so water getting under sapphire should surely not happen...