Get Bergeron screwdrivers or screwdriver sets from esslinger

 

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Esslinger Watchmakers Tools and Watch Parts

Watchmakers parts and watch repair tools and supplies including watch straps, batteries, movements, and clasps

www.esslinger.com

 

Good screw driver set is critical. Bergeron worth the money.

 

I don't think you need to go with a $$ Bergeon set.
You just need something with a sharp bit, and good steel.
Look for ones that say something other than China.
Bergeons lower two grades are Chinese crap, so you can't go by name only.
I know. I'm an amateur watchmaker and spent some time looking. Have a drawer full of mistakes.

 

Others have already mentioned but Bergeron is the way to go. I purchased from esslinger as well.

 

Skrr if you have some patinece and want some $200 wrth buy these. https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256801694686083.html?pdp_npi=2@dis!USD!US $77.00!$77.00!!!!!@2101d1b016702109509125556e1879!12000018002719128!btf&_t=pvid:7f1b7c94-4e74-441b-b621-c0b6e68a9431&afTraceInfo=1005001881000835__pc__pcBridgePPC__xxxxxx__1670210951&spm=a2g0o.ppclist.product.mainProduct&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa&_randl_shipto=US

I bought these and Bergeon tips which I have never neeed because he tips no these are so good
oem Bergeon tips FIT these.

OR these

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Another vote for Bergeon. Accept no substitute

 

Order bergeon tips and the ali ones.

 

The ali set may not be bad but at $100 plus extra $$ for the Bergeon blades does not make much sense when you can buy the whole bergeon set for $150

Bergeon 5970 Watchmakers Screwdriver set With Stand

Delight in the Bergeon 5970 watchmaker's screwdriver set with stand, nine tools with replaceable stainless steel blades and color-coded bands in a rotating storage stand.

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Bergeon 6899-S10 Ergonomic Watchmakers Screwdrivers Set of 10 with Rotating Base

These small screwdrivers are used for watch repair, small electronics, eyeglass repair, etc. The small size of the the screwdrivers lets you tighten or loosen small screws and also get into small areas. In 10 different sizes/styles, sold individually.

www.esslinger.com

 

Wiha makes really good drivers. I’d start there.

 

Yes! The name escaped me for second, but that’s it! Believe German made.

 

Bergeon tools are great, but they seem so expensive for an occasional hobbyist.

I have a bergeon spring bar tool, bergeon tips for my spring bar tweezers, 1 bergeon screwdriver, and a bergeon speedy winder. Still cost over £100 for those few bits, but it wasn't wasted, like some cheaper stuff.

 

I have a set of Facom jewellers screwdrivers which are excellent quality and reasonably priced that should fit the bill.

 

Yes, bergeon is undoubtedly worth the money... So long as you have justifiable use for that kind of money. If you're not going to be servicing the watch from dial to movement, a nice upgrade without spending a fortune is horotec. If that's still a lot of money, then another good upgrade is a fine driver set from athol tools. I have all three sets and speak from experience

 

I read other threads saying these are good in between. I bought a set, actually arrives today, we'll see.

Professional Screwdriver Kit - 10pc

Watch Screwdriver Set for Adjusting Watches and Accessories. Kit includes Flat-Head and Philips Screwdrivers. Will work with many watch types and applications.

www.wristandstyle.com

 

I read other threads saying these are good in between. I bought a set, actually arrives today, we'll see.

Professional Screwdriver Kit - 10pc

Watch Screwdriver Set for Adjusting Watches and Accessories. Kit includes Flat-Head and Philips Screwdrivers. Will work with many watch types and applications.

www.wristandstyle.com

I've had this set for quite awhile and am absolutely pleased with them. I too had the idea that if the drivers were good, I could always change out the blades for Bergeon or better, but have not found the need. Below is an image via my scope before shaping or sharpening on my Arkansas stone.

 

If a Phillips head is torqueing out, it may be a JIS screw, and you should really be using a JIS screwdriver.

Myself and several other member have this set; I use them for all my watches and they've been excellent.

VESSEL Precision Screwdriver Set No.TD-56S TD56S - - Amazon.com

VESSEL Precision Screwdriver Set No.TD-56S TD56S - - Amazon.com

www.amazon.com

 

Bergeon is mostly a reseller - most people don't realize this. They can and do make some good stuff, and I have many Bergeon tools in my shop. But they are riding on a reputation that was earned a long time ago, and in many cases don't really live up to. The people who are most loyal to the brand are not typically professionals, but they know the name so that what they buy. Kind of like the non-watch person buying a Rolex, because that's the name they know, and they have heard that it's the best.

There are many options for screwdrivers, and Bergeon would certainly be far down my list. My main set of screwdrivers is from VOH - by far the best out there IMO. My secondary set (that I use more for modern watches) is from Horia. Far better than the Bergeon set I used to own, but not quite at the VOH level.

Here is the Horia set, which is reasonably priced:

Screwdrivers Horia Set of Eight (jewelerssupplies.com)

Here is the VOH set for those who might be more serious about watchmaking:

Screwdrivers Set of 12 Swiss VOH (jewelerssupplies.com)

I'm not affiliated with the seller, other than being a customer of theirs. I use these screwdrivers nearly every day, for many hours a day, so they are thoroughly tested.

But whatever screwdriver you choose, realize that they still may need to be fitted to the slot to prevent cam-out and damage to the screw or surrounding parts. The blade of the screwdriver should be no as long as the length of the slot. The blade should not go all the way to the bottom of the slot - it shouldn't touch the bottom, but be just slightly above the bottom of the slot.

Cheers, Al

 

Bergeon is mostly a reseller - most people don't realize this. They can and do make some good stuff, and I have many Bergeon tools in my shop. But they are riding on a reputation that was earned a long time ago, and in many cases don't really live up to. The people who are most loyal to the brand are not typically professionals, but they know the name so that what they buy. Kind of like the non-watch person buying a Rolex, because that's the name they know, and they have heard that it's the best.

There are many options for screwdrivers, and Bergeon would certainly be far down my list. My main set of screwdrivers is from VOH - by far the best out there IMO. My secondary set (that I use more for modern watches) is from Horia. Far better than the Bergeon set I used to own, but not quite at the VOH level.

Here is the Horia set, which is reasonably priced:

Screwdrivers Horia Set of Eight (jewelerssupplies.com)

Here is the VOH set for those who might be more serious about watchmaking:

Screwdrivers Set of 12 Swiss VOH (jewelerssupplies.com)

I'm not affiliated with the seller, other than being a customer of theirs. I use these screwdrivers nearly every day, for many hours a day, so they are thoroughly tested.

But whatever screwdriver you choose, realize that they still may need to be fitted to the slot to prevent cam-out and damage to the screw or surrounding parts. The blade of the screwdriver should be no as long as the length of the slot. The blade should not go all the way to the bottom of the slot - it shouldn't touch the bottom, but be just slightly above the bottom of the slot.

Cheers, Al

Thank you. I couldn't have said it better.

 

My Wera screwdrivers have never let me down,

 

I'll jump in here with yet another quality brand. Xcelite. These are used in my work in repairing measuring instruments, calipers, dial & test indicators, etc. They are fine, but are a bit longer at just over 6" each, but the size of the flat heads are fairly smaller...the smallest being 1.45mm wide and blade is .35mm thick. The length of the shafts are not replaceable, but are long enough that they will last quite a long time if ground or filed down many times.

You can find them here...https://www.amazon.com/Xcelite-XP60...1&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9016970&hvtargid=pla-611063717021

 

I use a set of Stanley jeweler's screwdrivers that work fine - the flat heads are 1.4mm to 3mm, Phillips #0 and 1.

A Bergeon set would give you a smaller size range for both flat heads and Phillips. I can't speak to quality of Bergeon tools, but Stanley Tools provides a lifetime warranty, no proof of purchase needed; Bergeon provides a one year warranty.

 

If you're doing infrequent service, just get a Horotec set from Esslinger. I have these, and they've done everything I've asked of them - reasonably priced too.

Esslinger link

 

Guy wants to change a battery in a quartz Seiko. "Get a $300 set of screwdrivers".

 

you've been here 14 years... you should know how it goes...

you ask for a $400 diver, and everyone suggests a $12k diver
you ask for a screwdriver to remove a tiny battery (which probably costs $15 for any jeweler to do) and everyone suggests a $300 set.

 

I have made some of my screwdriver blades from sewing needles. They work well and are pretty tough and I can make them to any length that I want.

 

I have purchased many precision screwdriver sets at varying price points and all are essentially crapola. So several years ago, needing a 1.5mm slotted to adjust the bracelet on an Omega Speedmaster I purchased a Wiha screwdriver on Amazon. I was so impressed with price/performance that I purchased the 8 piece set also on Amazon for $30+ and that is all I use.

 

I use Wiha at work all day repairing electronics.. they are also a good quality option.

 

Horofix T-blade screwdrivers are the surest handling. Their precision hollow-ground blades provide extra cam-out resistance. If you don't use screwdrivers for hours a day, this added insurance is gold. You don't need them, but you'll absolutely be grateful that you did.

For watches like Casio that use Japanese system screws and bolts, the Vessel JIS micro screwdrivers. This applies mostly to cross-head type screws. The tip profile again reduces the likelihood of cam-out.

Cam-out and the resultant damage to the fastener is the deadliest enemy of any drive/fastening system short of Torx+ and other zero drive-angle systems.

 

Thanks for the information provided on a Quality set of screwdrivers. Now given the information, I will have more research! I think this Thread should be made into a sticky? I will give an update on the screwdriver set I do buy. Vance.