listing says pics are of the actual watch and it's described as a duetto, yet there's no pic of the verso.

stated reference is q2668432. serial number in pic, 2001154, is for a q250...., a different reverso classique.

mirror-polished caseback, no box and papers. hmm. (fwiw, even if authenticity is not in doubt, better have papers with a modern watch; adds legitimacy to provenance.)

 

listing says pics are of the actual watch and it's described as a duetto, yet there's no pic of the verso.

stated reference is q2668432. serial number in pic, 2001154, is for a q250...., a different reverso classique.

mirror-polished caseback, no box and papers. hmm. (fwiw, even if authenticity is not in doubt, better have papers with a modern watch; adds legitimacy to provenance.)

Thank you for your reply! I hadn't even noticed the incorrect reference number. I might give them a call and have them send over some more pictures and information. They have very high reviews online, but seem to specialize in Rolexes, and don't appear to be as familiar with JLC... maybe that explains the listing oddities?

While digging on this forum I did find another member with a Reverso 250.8.86 with a polished back... so hopefully thats a good sign.

Picture courtesy of Minty007 from this thread:

Help! JLC Reverso Classique; fake or real?

Dear fellow JLC experts; I need your expertise to help me identify if this Reverso Classique real or fake. It's a nice piece that I've had my eyes on. Cheers!

www.watchuseek.com

 

The watch in the pictures looks legit to me.

However, the seller has incorrectly listed the watch with a different reference number. The seller is also listing the same exact watch on chrono24 for a few hundred less.

I would find a seller who actually knows what they are doing, and buy from them.

 

The watch in the pictures looks legit to me.

However, the seller has incorrectly listed the watch with a different reference number. The seller is also listing the same exact watch on chrono24 for a few hundred less.

I would find a seller who actually knows what they are doing, and buy from them. Its not like this seller offering a particularly good price.

Thank you for the reply -- I did just see that as well... I have to say I prefer the Chrono24 price!
I called the shop itself, and the man I spoke with was very knowledgeable. I based on the pictures he sent I think its authentic, but I did find out that the reverse face is actually engraved, which while beautiful, is a bit problematic for me as the initials are not even remotely close to my own.

Is it possible to have this removed? I would love to have it engraved with my own initials but I imagine all of this would be quite expensive.

 

Chrono takes a smaller cut than ebay, so no surprise that the price is lower there. I am intrigued as to why the watch is not processing through ebays authentication service since it costs more than $2k. That would be a red flag for me.

 

For a watch of that quality the vendor should know exactly what it is, IMHO.
Keep shopping.

 

It doesn't make sense. The duetto always has 2 faces that show the same time and that can't be set separately like the duoface, but this one apparently has an engraving on the verso side. That's weird

 

Seems legit to me, but this is the “smaller” version. FYI.

 

Just My Opinion For What It May Be Worth.
Bite the MSRP bullet and buy a new one from a reputable JLC Authorized dealer.
You "might" save yourself a whole bunch of long term grief.
Fleecebay is a minefield at best, and with a used watch from them or other sites, you really have no way to guarantee most of what is told you. And likely the sellers will tell you anything. Then you have a return nightmare, which often goes badly. <Sorry to be such a negative bummer, here. I am a very careful type of buyer.>
(Ultimately - - - your risk, your money, your choice)

 

To update -- I decided against the Reverso with the polished back; too many oddities to move forward, especially after I found out that the reverse side is actually engraved with a monogram.

I am still deciding whether to pick up the second one I mentioned or not... It is a tad bit more than I wanted to spend, but it seems to be in good shape. Having not tried on a Reverso in real life, I am concerned about the sellers lack of return policy. I know I could probably offload it elsewhere and break even but it would be so much easier if I could send it back if it didn't work out.

I am eyeing a few others, both on Ebay and on Chrono24, some of which are the quartz version. This will be used as a secondary watch (daily is a Cle de Cartier) and thus, a quartz might actually be a bit easier to deal with. That being said.... the Reverso just seems like a watch which ought to be manual. The prices on the quartz are better, and many seem to be in better shape though, so I'm not opposed to the idea.

Anyone have any thoughts as to whether buying the quartz would be wise or not?

 

To update -- I decided against the Reverso with the polished back; too many oddities to move forward, especially after I found out that the reverse side is actually engraved with a monogram.

I am still deciding whether to pick up the second one I mentioned or not... It is a tad bit more than I wanted to spend, but it seems to be in good shape. Having not tried on a Reverso in real life, I am concerned about the sellers lack of return policy. I know I could probably offload it elsewhere and break even but it would be so much easier if I could send it back if it didn't work out.

I am eyeing a few others, both on Ebay and on Chrono24, some of which are the quartz version. This will be used as a secondary watch (daily is a Cle de Cartier) and thus, a quartz might actually be a bit easier to deal with. That being said.... the Reverso just seems like a watch which ought to be manual. The prices on the quartz are better, and many seem to be in better shape though, so I'm not opposed to the idea.

Anyone have any thoughts as to whether buying the quartz would be wise or not?

Don't know if it matters to you or not, but all *modern quartz models fall into the women's category, meaning smaller case sizes and different design elements.

 

Quartz versus Mechanical is really no big deal one way or another. It is simply a matter of what you like or want. It should neither be 'wise' or 'unwise' for any particular reason, as both have their pro's and con's. Either would be a good choice in a Reverso.

 

You should do a search for the dimensions of that reference, vice going off what the seller has listed, just to be sure your getting the correct information.

Reversos are unique in that historically the dimensions for the “length” of the case refers to the lug to lug width. So if you have the correct Reverso dimensions you can cut out a piece of paper using the same measurements, and you will have a very good idea of how the watch will look on your wrist.

I edited my first post to specify that modern quartz reversos fall into the women’s category

 

I no longer buy watches without appropriate paperwork. I did it once and got burned


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I no longer buy watches without appropriate paperwork. I did it once and got burned

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can't appropriate paperwork be forged?

 

Hey everyone,

Just wanted to update you... I did end up getting myself a Reverso...
But I went for the gold version instead! I have to say it really is a thing of beauty, and price-wise, I didn't end up spending that much more than the SS, so it worked out rather well.
As discussed, it is the Classique size, which is on the smaller side, but nice for a dress watch and not so small that it's underwhelming. I also think its doubly appropriate for a gold watch. I may switch the strap for either a brown or black crocodile/alligator one, but I think the current ostrich makes it a bit less formal, which is also nice.
Thanks everyone!

 

Beautiful watch congratulations.

 

good follow up!