I never leave the house between 10pm and 3am and hide in a dark room. But I still love the date/day changing process.

 

Haha, that's actually pertinent, It never really bothered me that much when I worked harder and was dead asleep before 10PM. Now I have more free time so I'm usually active well past 12

 

Yeah, I've thought about having my watch tech reset the hands/day/date wheel to start changing at 1:30 am. Hardly ever out this late anymore and the change would complete just as I finish the first cup of coffee at Oh Dark Thirty the next morning.

 

I should have thought of this last time I changed the dial and hands on my SKX. I could have set the hands so the date changed around 0200. I don't really care about the slow change, but avoiding the "danger zone" would be handy if I decide to change the date late in the evening.

 

I would suggest you sell off the Seiko's and concentrate on something else in your life. I have a quartz SBBN035 Seiko dive watch and I don't give a whit what goes on when the day/date change. I know how they work and you're making too big of a deal with it. Lighten up.....

I've always been bothered by Seiko very slow day/date change but recently this was raised to a level that keeps me from wearing them as often as I would like.

Just a recap on how Seiko day/date change works:

At 10:20PM the date start to change and it finishes at 12. For 1 and 40 minutes the watch looks like it's broken.

So now the date is correct, but the day still showing the previous day. It last 10 minutes.

At 12:10 the day start to change, and for 30 minutes the watch looks like it's broken but then it changes..........to a different language and still for the previous day.

At 1:40 it starts to change and it finishes to do so at 3AM

Now, this is ridiculous. I won't even discuss the swiss here, but damn, even my russian Vostoks and chinese Seagull movements are changing the date instantly. Seiko couldn't fix this in the past 70 years ? They came up with many new movements even recently.

Any decent watch (beside Seiko and Orient) can change the day/date instantly or in about 1 minute at most. I'll take 5 minutes, I'll take 15 minutes, but over 4 and a half hours ???????

For God's sake, for 20% of a day, a Seiko watch is showing either the wrong day/date, or missaligned-blank day/date. That can't be right and I don't know how one could sugar-coat this.

Some of you may say you don't care. Let me point out the following common situation:

It's evening, weekend or not, so you go out with your girl, friends etc. You dress nicely and you grab your beautiful Presage Cocktail, or SARY or SARB. It looks fantastic. Just as you get to the restaurant or the party, your date start to change. It's 10:20PM. From now until 12, your beautiful watch looks like it's either broken or a badly made clone (which ironically may do better), no matter how beautiful it is, during that 1h40m it just looks nasty.

Do you find this acceptable ? I have a few beautiful Seikos that I just cannot wear on evenings, I'm limited to my swiss watches usually.

 

Really mature answer, typical. I thought this was a grown up forum not kindergarden.

 

Nobody is looking At your watch, besides you. From my experience, most women focus on the straps or dial color vs. any complications.

That said, I do agree the slow date change is frustrating, but I don’t mind it in the lower $ offerings. If you want instant date changes, the Grand Seiko 9F does it in the blink of an eye.

 

Nobody is looking At your watch, besides you. From my experience, most women focus on the straps or dial color vs. any complications.

That said, I do agree the slow date change is frustrating, but I don't mind it in the lower $ offerings. If you want instant date changes, the Grand Seiko 9F does it in the blink of an eye.

That's mostly true. Exception being those watches that do get noticed, like my Coktail Blue Moon, since it is so eye catching, and I already had 2 people admiring the watch and ask me if the date is broken. And it also bothers me especially on these ,,rafined designs.

Going to Grand Seiko's isn't really good solution since this slow change things isn't happening in most competing products, even at entry level price.

I guess I had higher expectations from Seiko, it doesn't seem something that's hard to do and they had plenty of time.

 

I’m off in the land of nod well before my Seiko even thing about changing the date let alone the day.

 

I'm not overly bothered by it myself, but it's one of many Seiko "quirks"; silly correctable things along with chapter ring misalignment, bezel misalignment, hands not lining up at 12, and not bothering to regulate movements on $2K watches. Seiko can't be bothered to do anything about it, so the only recourse is live with it or vote with your wallet.

 

I have a few issues with Seiko watches, this being only one of them, but I keep buying and using them. That's because for all the quirks, they do get so many things right. The company history, legacy and innovations, the design, overall they have some ,,uniqueness,, about them and the experience with them that makes us love them. If I browse a watch store right now, and pick 10 watches I would buy next year, 5 of them would be Seikos, even if it might not make sense value wise for example

 

I have noticed that too, but my Alpinist seems to change starting at midnight, so I only notice it in the summer when I am fishing all night long... Or on those long late winter nights watching a movie under a blanket.
Either way it's not a bother.
(Dunno bout my other Seiko autos- haven't worn them as much. I'll update after Christmas when I give my son his red SNK.)

 

Actually the 6R15 I have does seem start to change the date a bit later than the 7 or 4 series. And it only have date, no day, so overall is better espcially if you get one like yours that starts around mid night. I would preferred that.

I'm also giving my 7 years old son a SNKL45 for its birthday. You know, because I hate Seiko and I should sell them all ��

 

I've always been bothered by Seiko very slow day/date change but recently this was raised to a level that keeps me from wearing them as often as I would like.

Just a recap on how Seiko day/date change works:

At 10:20PM the date start to change and it finishes at 12. For 1 and 40 minutes the watch looks like it's broken.

So now the date is correct, but the day still showing the previous day. It last 10 minutes.

At 12:10 the day start to change, and for 30 minutes the watch looks like it's broken but then it changes..........to a different language and still for the previous day.

At 1:40 it starts to change and it finishes to do so at 3AM

Now, this is ridiculous. I won't even discuss the swiss here, but damn, even my russian Vostoks and chinese Seagull movements are changing the date instantly. Seiko couldn't fix this in the past 70 years ? They came up with many new movements even recently.

Any decent watch (beside Seiko and Orient) can change the day/date instantly or in about 1 minute at most. I'll take 5 minutes, I'll take 15 minutes, but over 4 and a half hours ???????

For God's sake, for 20% of a day, a Seiko watch is showing either the wrong day/date, or missaligned-blank day/date. That can't be right and I don't know how one could sugar-coat this.

Some of you may say you don't care. Let me point out the following common situation:

It's evening, weekend or not, so you go out with your girl, friends etc. You dress nicely and you grab your beautiful Presage Cocktail, or SARY or SARB. It looks fantastic. Just as you get to the restaurant or the party, your date start to change. It's 10:20PM. From now until 12, your beautiful watch looks like it's either broken or a badly made clone (which ironically may do better), no matter how beautiful it is, during that 1h40m it just looks nasty.

Do you find this acceptable ? I have a few beautiful Seikos that I just cannot wear on evenings, I'm limited to my swiss watches usually.

Buy a Seiko perpetual with the 6a32 movement. Near instant date change.

But it's quartz.

 

Impulse, that’s a great movement I’ve been watching it but haven’t yet found a design I like to pull the trigger. I will eventually. Anyway, this is obviously about Seiko mechanical watches.

 

Op, you probably won't get a ton of agreement on this here, at least nowhere near to the same degree as yourself. i simply think most people just aren't bothered by this.

 

OK, understood, but beats me how others aren't bothered by something like the image below. If you can look at that and you don't see anythong wrong, more power to you. I find it completely ruins a beautiful watch.

 

This only bothered me when I worked the Graveyard shift and needed the complication feature.


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day/date change on my Seikos has never bothered me...

on my Amphibia on the other hand...

willie
on the Gulf of Mexico

 

day/date change on my Seikos has never bothered me...

on my Amphibia on the other hand...

willie
on the Gulf of Mexico

I have that Vostok movement in a few watches, and the date changes instanty at 12. Mine are the older URSS versions from the 80's I would have thought the newer ones should work the same

 

The only way this would bother me is if I worked nights, otherwise I never notice. Besides if I've been looking at the date all day long I can pretty much figure out what's coming next

 

Sure, if you don't really use the watch during those hours, then it is a non-issue.

The practicality is only one side of the issue, and frankly for me the less bothersome. That's why for not dress, non-classy Seikos, it didn't really bothered me that much alrhough I preffer to have a quick change for sure.

But there's the visual side of it, and when you go to classy, dresssy, premium looking watches, it really spoils the whole experience, assuming you are wearing the watch during the date change.

 

I am not sure that a watch with a bilingual day can change at the stroke of 12

However as I have to get up by 7am on most mornings I really don't care if the day and date take hours to change as I am in bed. On those days that i am up during that time, my watches are off my wrist and on the night stand so i am not seeing it. I got a house full of clocks so I dont need a watch on at home

 

Not too sure if I was out on a date with a girl she would be too impressed with me watching the day/date roll over on my watch rather than paying attention to her.

Grab a beer sit back and enjoy your date life's too short.

 

Not too sure if I was out on a date with a girl she would be too impressed with me watching the day/date roll over on my watch rather than paying attention to her.

Grab a beer sit back and enjoy your date life's too short.

This really have nothing to do with anything I said

 

If you think this is was about impressing a girl or friends, you missed the point, that is not what I wrote. I was just describing a situation with a casual evening go-out where you dress nice, put your classy watch on, and then you have that crooked date. In my view there’s no difference than having a bit of shirt coming out of your pants zipper. If you don’t care, fine. I do.

 

I can understand you saying that it annoys you but you framed it as how others would see it as being bad on your watch. There are plenty of things that annoy me about many watches but I would never say it was as a result of how others view my watches. Really I don't care what anyone else thinks, I buy watches for me and that was why I said sit back and have a beer.

 

No, I did not said that, you misunderstood. I did not said I care about what others think, and did not said that this issue annoys me because of what others fell about it. I care about what I think and how I present myself which is a different thing

 

Doesn't bother me.

I'm usually not confused between 10pm and 3am which day it's going to be.

 

I've always been bothered by Seiko very slow day/date change but recently this was raised to a level that keeps me from wearing them as often as I would like.

Just a recap on how Seiko day/date change works:

At 10:20PM the date start to change and it finishes at 12. For 1 and 40 minutes the watch looks like it's broken.

So now the date is correct, but the day still showing the previous day. It last 10 minutes.

At 12:10 the day start to change, and for 30 minutes the watch looks like it's broken but then it changes..........to a different language and still for the previous day.

At 1:40 it starts to change and it finishes to do so at 3AM

Now, this is ridiculous. I won't even discuss the swiss here, but damn, even my russian Vostoks and chinese Seagull movements are changing the date instantly. Seiko couldn't fix this in the past 70 years ? They came up with many new movements even recently.

Any decent watch (beside Seiko and Orient) can change the day/date instantly or in about 1 minute at most. I'll take 5 minutes, I'll take 15 minutes, but over 4 and a half hours ???????

For God's sake, for 20% of a day, a Seiko watch is showing either the wrong day/date, or missaligned-blank day/date. That can't be right and I don't know how one could sugar-coat this.

Some of you may say you don't care. Let me point out the following common situation:

It's evening, weekend or not, so you go out with your girl, friends etc. You dress nicely and you grab your beautiful Presage Cocktail, or SARY or SARB. It looks fantastic. Just as you get to the restaurant or the party, your date start to change. It's 10:20PM. From now until 12, your beautiful watch looks like it's either broken or a badly made clone (which ironically may do better), no matter how beautiful it is, during that 1h40m it just looks nasty.

Do you find this acceptable ? I have a few beautiful Seikos that I just cannot wear on evenings, I'm limited to my swiss watches usually.

If instant date change is THAT important to you, get a vintage Seiko made by Daini factory as almost all Daini movements had it.
Here's a clip of my King Seiko 4502 including the instant date change. I think the date changes at around 1:42 (video time, not hours) but blink and you'll miss it

not to mention it has one of the prettiest movements made by Seiko:

I mean this is all if you NEED it to be a Seiko.
Oh and in my experience Orient watches change dates at about 15 minutes before or after midnight, at least date only models do.

 

I could get a whole lot of other watches and be done with it. It is important like I described, but at the same time, I like Seiko and won’t stop using and buying them. No watch is perfect, I just wish they had fixed this in tens of years.

Orient is the same, since most of their movements are based on Seiko designs. But I don’t really use Orient classy dress watches, and that’s were I see it being a bigger issue, because Seiko does some superb classy dress watches and that crooked date in the evening really looks like bird poop on a Porsche. Hard to imagine how someone would put such effort into perfecting those besutiful designs and then not care about the croocked date.

 

Some cool vintage Seikos had instant day/date change. King Seiko 5246-6010 for example:

Very cool watch in general, Daini made, "Special" designation, chronometer, one of the best.

 

Can’t say I really pay much attention to it. I guess I can figure out the day and date regardless of instant change over.


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When I bought my Turtle PADI few months’ back, I thought something really gone wrong when I saw date changing at 11 PM. I tried my best to correct it by moving date/day changing mechanism, and it didn’t move a bit.
Later I realised my blunder and changed it by moving hour hands.
Fortunately nothing went wrong and it’s working perfectly. So it’s indeed a robust movement.
It may be irritating if you don’t know about it but normal when you know it’s how date changes...
I’ve learnt to accept my watches as they are, like women, in my life; each with some idiosyncrasy but beautiful in their own way.