Welcome to Omegaland, Patennis. There have been certain Speedmasters with red chrono second hands, but if it was a standard Professional, it's very likely a replacement.

eric

 

Hi. I just had my circa 1966 Omega Speedmaster Proffesional repaired (replacement crown). My watch (father bought it when we lived overseas in mid-sixties) has the red second chrono hand and it is original and it has never been replaced.

I too have been looking for information on the red second hand, as all of the Speedmasters I see on eBay have white second hand. Any info on the red second hand would be appreciated.

 

South African and Italian market only. 1968-1972. 'Apollo' model with white dial.
ST 105.012/145.012
Marco Richon-Omega Museum.

 

Welcome to the forum, jrwood. It's always great to hear about Speedies that have stayed in the family, for so many years.

Wytnucls mentioned a white dialed "Apollo" Speedmaster, which I'm guessing is similar to this model.

Apologies, but I cannot recall where I acquired this photo.

I've seen it described as a prototype, but also as a very limited release.

However, I'm guessing that you're referring to a standard dark dialed Speedy. Over the years, I've seen some early models with red chrono second hands. Some, with a straight/slab-type hand, like this,

and others with a red standard Speedy hand, like the one on the white Speedy, above. I strongly suspect that the straight/slab-style hands are replacements, but, admittedly, I long suspected that the standard-style red second hands were either custom painted, or replacements. As you've noted you are certain that your father's is original, it would seem that a few left the factory this way. This is very interesting to note.

If you are able, we'd love to see photos!

eric

 

Here is a modified Speedmaster- Not original!

Seller's note: This version I have made is not available from Omega and is not purporting to be a 'rare factory prototype' it is a custom modification by signature and the serial number will be kept on file with me for reference.

 

I like the look of this one a lot:-!
Nick.

 

Wow, fast responses. As I stated earlier, I just had the watch repaired.

We were stationed in Marville France in 1966 and Lahr Germany until 1969. My father was a navigator in the Canadian Armed Forces and he travelled the world and was always bringing home watches. The Speedmaster was his favourite, and mine too. I just recently had it repaired after 20years (I know, I know) as the crown had broken off. I had an original Omega crown replaced and the watch is running fine. I do need a new crystal though.

As far as I know, everything is original about this watch. However I could not be absolute sure. My father is no longer with us as he passed on in 1978.

Eric, your picture of the black faced Speedy with the red second hand is identical to mine, right down to the "1039" flat linked bracelet. What are the odds that there are three (Patennis has seen one) identical "non-std" / replacement red second hand watches (even with the flat linked bracelet)?

Anyway, here are some pics I took of the watch. Now I need to find out more about this specific watch. I will have a jeweller remove the back so I can tell what model it is. I expect it is a 1861? Manual Professional chrono.

John

 

That is a beeeatuiful watch, John. I'm really impressed with the overall condition. If it was purchased in '66, it uses the renowned c.321 movement, and is most likely a ref.105.12 or 145.012. You need to hang on to that for a very, very long time.

Regarding the red second hand, I suppose it's just difficult to say for certain, if it left the factory that way. This hand was standard issue on at least one Omega (a c.321 Seamaster), around that time, so we know that it was at least being manufactured.

At any rate, it really is a fantastic watch with a great history. Thanks for sharing.

eric

 

That is a beeeatuiful watch, John. I'm really impressed with the overall condition. If it was purchased in '66, it uses the renowned c.321 movement, and is most likely a ref.105.12 or 145.012. You need to hang on to that for a very, very long time.

Regarding the red second hand, I suppose it's just difficult to say for certain, if it left the factory that way. This hand was standard issue on at least one Omega (a c.321 Seamaster), around that time, so we know that it was at least being manufactured.

At any rate, it really is a fantastic watch with a great history. Thanks for sharing.

eric

I like that red hand a lot. Almost consider modifying my 3570.50 to look like that.

 

Thanks Eric. I do plan on keeping this watch for a very, very long time ;-)

I will verify the model # with a jeweller and get back to you. I also need to replace the crystal (the camera certainly picked up more flaws in the crystal than I can see with my naked eye) and I understand the only option is with the original Hesalite crystal. Any idea what I can expect cost-wise?

John

 

For starters, you might try to polish the crystal with a product like Polywatch, or even Brasso. But, you can pick up a new crystal from places like this for about $30.

Do keep us posted!

eric

 

Very nice Speedy, welcome to the forum;-)

 

looks like a 321

 

The Speedy Proto type for the "Alaska Project" does also have a red secondhand for the chrono. (I suppose you mean the large second hand, not the smaller one on the left side of the dial.), and black Apollo hands for the 30-min and 12-h dials

These Alaska types are quite rare. I 'found' one that was sold on an auction in 2007 for $ 64,900.-. You could call it Linited Edition if you like...

 

I know this isnt the watch you are talking about but doesnt the Speedy look great with red/orange hands,well i think so anyway. Here is a pic of Commish1999's red handed Speedy.

 

That does look nice...but it almost takes away from the Speedy's elegant look and puts it into a more of a sporty look. If that makes sense. Still, I wouldn't mind doing one up like that.

 

These ''red'' Speedies keep popping up from time to time....

Here is one I found on ''The Bay'' a while ago..(I didn't bought it)

I am starting to appreciate that red hand...;-)

 

Hi All Omegas Fanatics,

I found my watch at last . . .

Took me quite a while & also a fortune, but managed to track it down. Will take actual shots of the watch soon.

This fellow is going to get some serious WRIST TIME...

I am a HAPPY BOY now.

PERSISTENT is the KEY to great finds...

Patennis ;-)

 

You mention Speedmaster and everyone jumps to the Professional... :-d
http://www.connectingwatches.com/cgi-bin/images.cgi?id=1259
Nice choice of watch, enjoy your wrist time !!!!

 

Hi,

Ha Ha Ha... So sorry for the confusion. I think this model is called Speedmaster Date, right? Just curious, does this model hv the same movements as the Professional series? Thanks for your answers in advanced.

Patennis

 

Hi,

Sorry for the confusion. I think this series is called Speedmaster Date, right?

Just curious, does this have the same movements as the Professional series?

Thanks for your answers in advanced!

Patennis

 

Hi,

Sorry for the confusion. I think this series is called Speedmaster Date, right?

Just curious, does this have the same movements as the Professional series?

Thanks for your answers in advanced!

Patennis

Hi are you talking about this Speedy? OMEGA Watches: Speedmaster Date - Steel on steel - 323.30.40.40.04.001

 

ID OP's watch

Hi
Can anyone identify the watch the OP was looking for and subsequently found?

 

Have a look at this similar thread.....

https://www.watchuseek.com/f20/help-1970s-speedmaster-professional-417746-3.html

 

And this one? Fake or a rare watch??

 

Is this what you are looking for
Bit overprices . Would just a get a thin sweep and paint red but if you want the original with lume I guess there are not many options ( unless point over the lume)

RARE Genuine Omega 2000s Speedmaster Moonwatch Alaska Project Red Sweep Hand | eBay

 

Is this what you are looking for
Bit overprices . Would just a get a thin sweep and paint red but if you want the original with lume I guess there are not many options ( unless point over the lume)

RARE Genuine Omega 2000s Speedmaster Moonwatch Alaska Project Red Sweep Hand | eBay

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I realize this thread is ancient but does anyone know a retailer that still has one of these red chrono hands?

 

the Alaska Project limited edition has the same hand.

Try ebay and watchco sells them now and then.

Here is a link

Just ask them if they still have some.

 

Hi Guys, new to this forum.
Great to read the comments.
My father passed this Speedmaster down to me with the orange sweeping hand. May be an Omega Ultraman but will have to get it certified by Omega Switzerland. Still in great working condition considering it's an 1968 model. Some pictures below. I wear a Omega Reduced daily and this possible Ultraman on special times. Will look after it being a super rate watch.

on special days!!