[Viper45]

If they do it, they'll succeed in letting me down even with my very low expectations...I guess we'll know in one month or so...

Considering the GPS is relegated to only emulate your location on the phone and the paths you took on the GBD, I do not see any difference in this new Rangeman seeing how similar it is to that watch.

 

[Rocket1991]

RINO definitions were updated!

Jokes aside, my expectations are very low: a gbdh2000 with some improved navigation system compared to the GPR-B in an ugly case.

And yet, whenever anyone talks about the new Rangeman, an inner voice whispers hope in my head.

There is no B&W solar powered "Fitness" watch out there with navigation you will find on Apple watch or Garmin Fenix.
There is not many to begin with and even most modern in shape of Garmin don't have it beyond bread crumb navigation.
Full map enabled navigation requires much more advanced and power hungry hardware which is not found on likes of Garmin Instinct let alone Casio MIPS watches.

 

[RB]

I'm curious about the new Rangeman GPR-H1000. IMO it is a must for a Rangeman to have a ABC button (like the GW-9400 with the triple sensor!)! The Garmin Instinct Solar has one....perfect for outdoorpeople!

 

[Queen6]

I'm curious about the new Rangeman GPR-H1000. IMO it is a must for a Rangeman to have a ABC button (like the GW-9400 with the triple sensor!)! The Garmin Instinct Solar has one....perfect for outdoorpeople!

Seemingly a Rangeman in name only, if another that's dependant on a Smartphone for navigation. Solar Garmin is likely to be the next as Casio have completely misfired...

Casio should have further developed the GPS Rangeman, not sold short!

Q-6

 

[Rocket1991]

Seemingly a Rangeman in name only, if another that's dependant on a Smartphone for navigation. Solar Garmin is likely to be the next as Casio have completely misfired...

Casio should have further developed the GPS Rangeman, not sold short!
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Q-6

Current most up to date Instinct 2X has dual band GPS. Casio seem to borrowed newer chip for Squad 2000 model, but fell short of any type of navigation. Either because of power hungry nature of internals or insufficient brains of internals or both. 2000 not really shining in battery life compared to competition while Garmin improves it with each and every generation. Carbon and resin band are sure "hugely" innovative and easy to implement, but at some point internals should see some attention too. GPRB was oldish at the time of introduction (though it was de facto first solar etc.) but it is not the biggest misfire on Casio side when it comes to smartwatches. Casio aware of their choices and that's why they stick to more simple models and other functions. Breadcrumb navigation is not really #1 function people use. And though i am critical of Casio not advancing to new hardware, i must say they added much more in demand fitness tracking functions. And that, i think, worth mentioning.

I am positive in terms of breadcrumb navigation hardware is capable at least on awfully crude level of GPRB. It records data anyway, so it only matter of extra code lines to use it.

 

[RB]

Seemingly a Rangeman in name only, if another that's dependant on a Smartphone for navigation. Solar Garmin is likely to be the next as Casio have completely misfired...

Casio should have further developed the GPS Rangeman, not sold short!
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Q-6

Beautiful GPR-B1000! They should have innovated this one....without a scrollwheel.

 

[Viper45]

Current most up to date Instinct 2X has dual band GPS. Casio seem to borrowed newer chip for Squad 2000 model, but fell short of any type of navigation. Either because of power hungry nature of internals or insufficient brains of internals or both. 2000 not really shining in battery life compared to competition while Garmin improves it with each and every generation. Carbon and resin band are sure "hugely" innovative and easy to implement, but at some point internals should see some attention too. GPRB was oldish at the time of introduction (though it was de facto first solar etc.) but it not he biggest misfire on Casio side when it comes to smartwatches. Casio aware of their choices and that's why they stick to more simple models and other functions. Breadcrumb navigation is not really #1 function people use. And though i am critical of Casio not advancing to new hardware, i must say they added much more in demand fitness tracking functions. And that, i think, worth mentioning.

I am positive in terms of breadcrumb navigation hardware is capable at least on awfully crude level of GPRB. It records data anyway, so it only matter of extra code lines to use it.

They could learn a thing or two from Garmin if they want to compete. Right now they are similar to LG in the smart fitness tracker market. They do not improvise on what they have, instead they add new features without good implementation. The same mistakes LG made in the smartphone market.

 

[Rocket1991]

They could learn a thing or two from Garmin if they want to compete. Right now they are similar to LG in the smart fitness tracker in the market. They do not improvise on what they have, instead they add new features without god implementation. The same mistakes LG made in the smartphone market.

I think it comes with Casio been watch company run by watch company execs, managers etc. What they doing is OK in watch but big no in smartwatch. Watch is 100% hardware ( i dismiss marketing and fashion parts) while smartwatch is 30% hardware and 70% software. Casio did borrowed software tech which improved latest models at least in a portion of it. But there is still a lot of things to deal with. And product cycle of smartwatches is 3 years now (used to be shorter) and during this time most of them still get some input from company which sold them: bug fixes, app support, ecosystem support, functionality support etc. Things unheard in a watch product cycle.
I think Casio is more like a fashion formal clothing store now, which used to see a lot of traffic back in the days, but now... who need suits for work?
So they try to diversify, offer something else, but in the end of the day when in the past you were looking around and 100% saw someone wearing Casio, now it a sight to behold.
They still doing good in certain demographic and they still look cool in they eyes of the kids. And surprisingly kids who want retro experience.
We always see cheery graph of increasing billions a year but they loosing their mojo in numbers. Compensated by selling more expensive LEs and such.
What is bad for Casio they loosing domestic sales which was 1/3 of their market. And i don't even need to bet on that, they loosing to Apple Watch.

Historical Data | CASIO

world.casio.com

They do loose even in sales $$$ numbers.
So Casio is facing tough times and i hope something good will come out of it. Not just another collab with name i would wear with lesser confidence than pure pink G-Shock.
G-Shock part of the Casio corp is indeed doing well and performs globally better than other divisions. So increase in transaction price is good working strategy. Works for GM, Ford and former Chrysler too. At least worked till this year.....

 

[sky_sun]

　confirmed new images of the new Rangeman "GPR-H1000" scheduled to be released early next year.

You can check the clear main body image and function icons.

　The concept of the main body has completely changed from the previous generation, and although it has a strong image of a G-SQUAD color specialized in sensors, it makes you feel that it is a G-SHOCK like never before. It has a strong freshness.

　As per the previous information, the function icon is a G-SHOCK equipped with about 6 sensors and linked with a smartphone app, and it can be seen that it is equipped with GPS on its own.
Early next year

　The image and information on the main body are pretty much complete, so it seems like it won't be long before it appears, and there is a possibility that it will be officially announced as early as the middle of this month.

 

[Viper45]

　As per the previous information, the function icon is a G-SHOCK equipped with about 6 sensors and linked with a smartphone app, and it can be seen that it is equipped with GPS on its own.
Early next year

It does not have GPS navigation. It is the same as in the GBD-H2000. Each and every thing is identical to that watch.

 

[RB]

It does not have GPS navigation. It is the same as in the GBD-H2000. Each and every thing is identical to that watch.

Just wait, Viper instead of making subjective conclusions based on the image...

 

[RB]

　confirmed new images of the new Rangeman "GPR-H1000" scheduled to be released early next year.
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You can check the clear main body image and function icons.

　The concept of the main body has completely changed from the previous generation, and although it has a strong image of a G-SQUAD color specialized in sensors, it makes you feel that it is a G-SHOCK like never before. It has a strong freshness.

　As per the previous information, the function icon is a G-SHOCK equipped with about 6 sensors and linked with a smartphone app, and it can be seen that it is equipped with GPS on its own.
Early next year

　The image and information on the main body are pretty much complete, so it seems like it won't be long before it appears, and there is a possibility that it will be officially announced as early as the middle of this month.

Thanks! It would be great that this Rangeman has GPS on its own!

 

[Viper45]

Just wait, Viper instead of making subjective conclusions based on the image...

Well then prepare to be disappointed.

 

[sky_sun]

It does not have GPS navigation. It is the same as in the GBD-H2000. Each and every thing is identical to that watch.

mmmm from the first i dont like it why ? because isnt look like the big brother gpr b1000
the first one its impressive and have nice looking so if it has no gps we have to call it lite rangman lol

 

[sky_sun]

Thanks! It would be great that this Rangeman has GPS on its own!

i hope that because now i save some mney and i m thinking to buy
gwg b1000 or gw-9500 or gbd h 2000 or wait this 2024

 

[TTV]

i hope that because now i save some mney and i m thinking to buy
gwg b1000 or gw-9500 or gbd h 2000 or wait this 2024

Just get the GBD-H2000 and save some money and wrist space 😉👍

 

[Rocket1991]

Just get the GBD-H2000 and save some money and wrist space 😉👍

Apart from less than stellar battery life for that kind of watch it is a good watch. Among Casio models it probably best functionality ever apart from few kinks here and there (we all know about them).
That said, battery life is still decent and livable. So though i criticize GBDH2000, i live with smartwatch which currently good for two days and some, so i should say 2000 is totally livable and won't present major issues unless you into 24 hr races/runs. so it probably good for 99.999999999% of watch buyers.

And i personally doubt people who do 24hr thing will get Casio anyway.

So, it all cool.

I also doubt usability of breadcrumb navigation opposite to what you can get is you really need it in Garmin. Thus again there is not much to complain about lack of it.

What GBDH1000 came out i comment on it with something like "if you drop smart part from consideration, you will end up with best Casio watch." Same can be said about 2000 with correction it hugely improved over 1000.

And like you said it really one thing which does it all. GPS gives it far better ABC functionality over pure ABC watches. altitude correction to weather and vice versa is clearly missing from Casio ABC line (BT watches excluded).

 

[Rocket1991]

Well then prepare to be disappointed.

I don't think Casio is that stupid just to stick same thing in different package when breadcrumb navigation is literally nothing special to add. But after Casio WearOS which was 3d iteration of same platform i would say i am not that assertive about it. So let say 50/50. G-Shock smartwatch was de facto earlier Protrek in G-shock guise. but it at least had G-shock protection as added bonus. Given how both models in question (2000 and rangeman) are G-shocks, i think Casio should stick at least something else to differentiate these, apart from design. It does seem logical..... but time will tell. I am not sure. And it is saying enough about my expectations from Casio.

When smartwatch does tracking it records technically bunch of data points which include reading from GPS and sensors. So like excel file with these. "navigation" will mean it accesses GPS part and both plots it and show some kind of pointer. All should be within firmware patch reach. Data is already collected and stored anyway. It will be very slow and very much limited use without maps. Unless you really in the tundra or similar.

 

[Viper45]

I don't think Casio is that stupid just to stick same thing in different package when breadcrumb navigation is literally nothing special to add.

I can go on about the list of examples regarding that. Here are a few more prominent ones:

1. GG-B100 Mudmaster vs GR-B200 Mudmaster vs PRT-B50 ProTrek
2. PRW-6000/6100 ProTrek vs GWG-1000 Mudmaster vs GWG-2000 Mudmaster
3. GST-B200 G-Steel vs GR-B100 Gravitymaster
4. MTG-B2000 vs MRG-B2000
5. MTG-S1000 vs GPW-1000 Gravitymaster vs MRG-G1000
6. GPW-2000 Gravitymaster vs MRG-G2000
7. WVA-M650 Waveceptor vs LCW-M300 lineage vs GW-2500 vs OCW-T400 Oceanus vs MRG-7600/7700
8. WVA-M630 Waveceptor vs LCW-M100 lineage
9. GWF-A1000 Frogman vs OCW-P2000 Oceanus
10. GWN-Q1000 Gulfmaster vs PRW-7000 ProTrek (Protrek just swaps out the depthmeter for a fishing timer)

 

[RB]

i hope that because now i save some mney and i m thinking to buy
gwg b1000 or gw-9500 or gbd h 2000 or wait this 2024

It is a hard decision...I like to be outdoors with my two sons and an ABC watch with GPS is a watch I prefer....The Mudman GW-9500 is IMO a nice watch, but the compass reading isn't perfect and it doesn't have GPS...The GBD-H2000 is a watch which comes closer to what I want, but I hope (!) the GPR-H1000 is a little more special...we have to wait!