I think you know the answer.

 

Genuinely do not know the answer - it was bought for the right price (£300) from a reputable seller (based on feedback). It's for my 14060 which I wear on an isofrane but fancied trying a bracelet.

It's my only Rolex but have owned many Omegas over the years and would be very confident identifying fakes but have not previously handled one of these vintage Rolex bracelets so struggling a bit!

If you think it's iffy, can you please elaborate on why? Paid with PayPal so will have no problem getting a refund if necessary.

 

Aren’t Rolex bracelets at least $1000 used?

 

Brand new, complete 93150 on ebay seems to be £1200-1500. The clasps seem to go for £150-350 depending on condition. My view is that everything on ebay has a kind of 'risk discount' baked in.

I'm inclined to think this clasp is genuine, the Rolex imprint on the inner pieces just looks right and the other text is very cleanly stamped. The only niggle is the depth of impression on the outer clasp and also the difficulty verifying based on internet images because even genuine clasps seem to vary a lot in terms of quality of impression, text position, font etc etc.

I was hoping someone here might have handled enough of these to have a strong feeling either way from the pics.

 

Having done some further research here are a couple of things I have turned up which may help to validate authenticity of 93150 clasps. All of the images below are replicas found on Google Images and replica forums.
1. The 'better' replicas tend to be based on the later clasp design with lines on the fliplock:

2. They also tend to have more holes than the genuine ones (gen have 8). Genuine clasp also has a gap between the two 'sets' of 4 holes. You can see in above image more holes and no gap.
3. Some of the replicas have a more pronounced shaping for the thumbnail under the fliplock - this is never found on genuine clasps:

4. Some genuine clasps have a square depression past the last hole on the side at the opposite end to the fliplock (you can see this on my clasp in my original post) but this is never found of the replicas.
5. The 'better' replicas have a cut out on the inside side of the fliplock to avoid fouling on the rivets (circled below). The genuine fliplock is angled to avoid fouling on (smaller/neater) rivets and does not have the cut out.

6. Although placement of text to the right of the Rolex logo on the inside of the clasp is inconsistent on genuine clasps it is never right justified as can be seen in the image above.

These are just observations recorded here in case they're useful to anyone with the same question in future - please do feel free to correct me if any of them are incorrect and equally to add any others you may know of.

Thanks!

 

You've killed your own thread by introducing the discussion and photos of known counterfeit.

And by using the word "gen" you've clearly shown that you've hung out on counterfeit sites.

There is no such thing as a replica. As soon as you use a trademark that doesn't belong to you, then you've created a counterfeit.

 

That’s a shame, clearly I’m not au fait with the etiquette around this topic - my apologies. I had literally just been hanging out on counterfeit sites looking for images to compare - as there are lots of inconsistencies in genuine bracelets it seemed as well to try and find consistencies among known counterfeit examples.

As I wasn’t getting any helpful replies I thought I’d share my findings for anyone who comes along in future with the same question hence the posting of known counterfeits (which I made clear were not genuine examples). No offence was meant, just very aware I’m asking for help having historically contributed nothing to the community so was trying to add some value by answering my own question.

I fundamentally agree with your last point - I have been collecting watches for all of my adult life and have had to invest a huge amount of time learning to identify counterfeits. I resent the individuals who profit from the theft of intellectual property and make watch collecting all the harder in doing so. The creation of this thread is a case in point, not having experience with Rolex bracelets (because historically I've focussed my attention on Omega) I was trying to avoid hours of research to authenticate this item by reaching out to a community which I knew to be knowledgeable on the topic. Ultimately I did some research and thought sharing my findings may help others in future.

 

I'm not happy with that clasp, but to get a definitive answer, you'll need to go to a good Rolex AD

 

Just to close this out, I have now had my AD and a vintage Rolex specialist look at this and they both confirmed it is genuine. For anyone in future with a similar query another trick is to look at the quality of the threading on the link screws (in this case there is only one to look at) - there should be a subtle chamfer where the threading meets the stem of the screw which is never present on the counterfeit bracelets. The threading itself is also deeper and more precise on genuine bracelets.

 

Just to close this out, I have now had my AD and a vintage Rolex specialist look at this and they both confirmed it is genuine. For anyone in future with a similar query another trick is to look at the quality of the threading on the link screws (in this case there is only one to look at) - there should be a subtle chamfer where the threading meets the stem of the screw which is never present on the counterfeit bracelets. The threading itself is also deeper and more precise on genuine bracelets.

Then you got a good buy. Congrats.