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Time Calibration Time Signal NEVER works in Los Angeles (for me) GWM5610-1

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#1 ·
I have a brand new GWM5610-1 and a few months old Waveceptor, and no matter what I do, where I do it, how I do it, I can NEVER get them to catch a signal and sync their times. I live in the hills of LA so I figured that could be an issue, but I've gone to other hoods, and no matter what I do, no luck getting a signal.

Has anyone in LA been able to sync, or has any issues? Thanks!
 
#2 ·
I have a brand new GWM5610-1 and a few months old Waveceptor, and no matter what I do, where I do it, how I do it, I can NEVER get them to catch a signal and sync their times. I live in the hills of LA so I figured that could be an issue, but I've gone to other hoods, and no matter what I do, no luck getting a signal.

Has anyone in LA been able to sync, or has any issues? Thanks!
Have you tried the WWVB emulator? (Android)

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* My MB6 watches normally synchronize their time pretty consistently, but I use it when I have problems (~ 1-2 times/year)

* It works well
 
#4 ·
Please forgive the directness of the following: are you new to atomic clock-syncing watches?

Is syncing toggled to on? Is your home city set correctly? (That’s a big one.) Are you leaving it with the correct side of the watch pointing towards Ft Collins, overnight in a window?

Just confirming you’ve done all of the troubleshooting from the manual.
 
#5 ·
No worries man. I am "newish", in the sense that I only have two watches that are atomic (all the rest are automatic mechanicals). So to answer your questions, yes, it's toggled ON (also tried manually), my city is set correctly to LAX, and as for Ft Collins overnight, I've tried but I have a hill in the direction of East (from where I am). So I don't know if said hill is the culprit.
 
#6 ·
It might be, but to be fair, there are lots of hills across the US and others get a signal from farther away. Some get good results from makeshift amplifiers...example, I keep my atomic watches on one of those towel racks that go over the toilet. They are oriented to face Ft Collins and sync really well, even manually during the day. Some, including myself, get better results from wearing them overnight. Might be worth trying!
 
#17 ·
Hey, I feel your pain-- I live in the East Hollywood Hills, and when I got my first atomics? I constantly tried to synch them manually, automatically, and every other way, but NOTHING seemed to work. I think one of my Citizens would synch manually about every seventh time I tried it, but no joy for any of ther others. I put them on the diving board, on the windowsill, I kept notes of what I'd tried, I read tons of forum posts here and elsewhere... and my GWM5610 in particular never synched manually. Not even once.

Finally, I just gave up, and put them in a watch box on my bureau-- not an ideal place at all-- and forgot about checking them for months.

Imagine my surprise when, 60 or 90 days later, I checked them against my digital atomic clock, and the atomics were the only watches that were all dead on, including the GWM5610. All of the others were off by a few seconds.

Some of the atomics indicated they had synched the previous night, others had synched at some other indeterminate point.

That's how it is now-- all the atomics are always right on time, they always agree with my atomic clock. So my advice is: Just let them sit for a few weeks, and then check them again (if you have an atomic clock.) There's some kind of alchemy to this with humidity and temperature or whatever. I never figured it out. As a practical matter? I know I can totally rely on all my atomics. It doesn't matter if they synched last night or nine days ago.

Traveling, yeah-- this is frustrating. I don't usually travel with atomics, though I do remember that the Citizen Perpetual is usable in this regard, it has synched manually in airplanes and in New York and London. Now, if I need to travel with a very accurate watch, I bring a Bluetooth watch, which can synch anywhere my phone is.

Try deliberately setting the GWM5610 five seconds fast or slow, leave it in some random place off your wrist for a month or so, and just try not to think about it. I bet it will synch.

Sorry that is such unscientific advice!
 
#22 ·
If clockwave is not working after you have set up the watch right (turn on clockwave, turn up the volume till it is full volume, then put watch in sync mode with the top part of the watch against the speaker) then it might be the watch is defective. With the exception of one G-Shock, i have never had a sync issue with clockwave. That one G (GW-6900) went back to casio under warranty where they replaced the module and it worked fine
 
#23 ·
Today I decided to try if I could get one of my Rangeman's to sync trough my computer so I installed the LDPlayer Android emulator in Windows 10 and then installed the DCF77 Emulator (the version of the app we in Europe should use since it syncs with the German tower)from the Google Play Store inside the LDPlayer android emulator Then once I installed the app I ran the app and placed my Rangeman inside the cups of my Sennheiser Momentum 2 ear cups:

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As you can see on the display it shows L3 as in level 3 which is the best strength signal. I got a successful sync 5 minutes later so this experiment was a success for me so now I can sync time not only with my phone but also with my stationary computer! :cool:(y)😁
 
#24 ·
I have a brand new GWM5610-1 and a few months old Waveceptor, and no matter what I do, where I do it, how I do it, I can NEVER get them to catch a signal and sync their times. I live in the hills of LA so I figured that could be an issue, but I've gone to other hoods, and no matter what I do, no luck getting a signal.

Has anyone in LA been able to sync, or has any issues? Thanks!
If none of the tricks suggested work, then it's very possible that you have strong interference at around 60kHz (the frequency used for the atomic clock transmitter).

There are many possible sources in your home - here is a thread on possible interferers:

 
#35 ·
This, 100%. Or something like it. I made a simple stand with a few small pieces of wood and some strips of aluminum stock glued to it. Put my radio shocks on it - they sync without fail, every night...even my older multiband 2. I spent maybe $5 on parts at Home Depot - a few redwood stakes, and a short piece of aluminum stock. Find some metal to act as an antenna, and you are golden. (I am in SoCal, too). Sorry for the terrible pic, but it will give you an idea:

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#33 ·
I have a brand new GWM5610-1 and a few months old Waveceptor, and no matter what I do, where I do it, how I do it, I can NEVER get them to catch a signal and sync their times. I live in the hills of LA so I figured that could be an issue, but I've gone to other hoods, and no matter what I do, no luck getting a signal.

Has anyone in LA been able to sync, or has any issues? Thanks!

My two cents are that there is too much electronic "noise" in your area if you are not able to get the watch to sync with Ft. Collins.
 
#36 ·
I'm finally at the point in my journey with atomic G's that I can't get a sync. I'm normally at home in Dallas where I have zero issues anytime. Now? I'm up at a petrochem site in North Carolina, right next to the coast, with my GWG2000 and no matter where I put it or in what orientation I cant get a signal.

I thought about an emulator app, but I'm only here for two weeks total, and leaving for home this Saturday. So screw it, the poor Muddy will go sync-less.
 
#37 ·
I have a brand new GWM5610-1 and a few months old Waveceptor, and no matter what I do, where I do it, how I do it, I can NEVER get them to catch a signal and sync their times. I live in the hills of LA so I figured that could be an issue, but I've gone to other hoods, and no matter what I do, no luck getting a signal.

Has anyone in LA been able to sync, or has any issues? Thanks!
I live in Tustin, Orange county and I have no problem with getting signal..
I went to Florida and Vegas, and I don't have any problems with getting signal either.. It sync every night since I owned this watch..
I even manually sync at my work place and it sync perfectly..
I don't know what to say..
 
#42 ·
@aladinodebert, @TheBearded

Intially, I had hard time to get a sync at home as well. I found the best way to look for a good sync spot is to initiate manual sync and VERY SLOWLY move with the watch through the house.

Doing so, I have discovered a few spots where my watches sync perfectly well. One of them is on top of our paper trash can - go figure. The other good spot has became thankfully their little drawer that I have more recently created in the walk-in closet - lucky for me. Here, in this spot they sync quite well if I place them in a certain way.

In any event, I have ALWAYS luck with syncing if I am wearing the watch at night. You can read about that a lot in other threads as well, as many members have been mentioning the same.