• I think you would, but I wouldn't say "significant".
• Most do not have an issue with it, so I'd say uncommon.
• A small minority of people are not able to get a proper fit of the bracelet, not something I'd be worried about, just something to keep in mind.

 

Never heard of Monta. Have two BB58’s and love them. Amazing watches that will last a lifetime.


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Never heard of Monta. Have two BB58's and love them. Amazing watches that will last a lifetime.

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Never heard of Monta? Hard to believe!

 

There are plenty Tudor AD'S in the US. I live in a rural crap hole and I have one 35 miles from me. Since you have the Monta for reference, find a 58 to try on.

 

Thanks! I found one about 38 miles away that have one. A little bit further but worth looking at since it a chunk of change for me.

 

I love my 58, great proportions, and on my list for best GADA, you must give it a look, it wears so well.

 

There are a ton of BB 58's on the secondary market these days.....

 

I was thinking about doing the secondary market but it's actually the same price or more. I would rather have the peace of mind that I'm the first owner.

 

The BB58 is one hell of a watch. Great size, great fit for any wrist. But i would stay away from trying to compare watches across different price range though. Either you like the watch and willing to pay the price for it even though it's more than 2x as much, or you enjoy your Monta.

There's never a logically or practical justification to pay twice as much for something that on paper does the same thing as a lower price alternative.

 

I think you'll be surprised. I own a Monta Atlas and recently looked at the BB58 at an AD. Monta's finishing is superior and the bracelet blows the Tudor out of the water.

Before anyone jumps on me, I love Tudor as a brand and think the Pelagos is the greatest thing since New England style top loading hot dog buns but finishing is not the brand's strong suit. If you opt for the BB58, the choice should be driven by the brand's heritage (which admittedly doesn't do much for me) and the movement.

 

I think you'll be surprised. I own a Monta Atlas and recently looked at the BB58 at an AD. Monta's finishing is superior and the bracelet blows the Tudor out of the water. Before anyone jumps on me, I love Tudor as a brand and think the Pelagos is the greatest thing since New England style top loading hot dog buns but finishing is not the brand's strong suit. If you opt for the BB58, the choice should be driven by the brand's heritage (which admittedly doesn't do much for me) and the movement.

Top loading hot dog buns ... great for lobster rolls, don't like them for hot dogs and sausages.

 

I have a Monta, and it is nice, but not in the Tudor league, IMHO.

 

Tudor all day long

 

Would I be able to tell a significant difference in the quality?

My opinion: Yes. the bracelet, the case and the bezel is a lot better on Monta. The dial and the handset has better look on the Tudor BB58.

How common is the end link issue in which is moves around (thewatchidiot mentioned this)?

My opinion: I always disliked the Tudor bracelets. The ceramic balls in he clasp are giving a very nice quality feel, but i prefer the look of the strapcode oyster.

Any other issues that I should take into consideration?

My opinion: BB58 the bezel grip is bad.The dial printing on the Monta (especially the date frame) looks a little cheap-ish for 1900k. The movement on the Monta is very well regulated but the BB58 chronometer movement is better. It has 70 hours power reserve, non-magnetic silicon balance spring and double side bridge (better shock protection) for the balance.

I don't think buying watches like a Tudor will help you with AD relationship. This is basically the fake advice everybody gets. In my opinion this results now in situation where you can not get a good price on a Omega or Tudor anymore, because people buying watches to build their relationship. Buying a watch should make U happy not the AD.

 

My opinion: Yes. the bracelet, the case and the bezel is a lot better on Monta. The dial and the handset has better look on the Tudor BB58.

My opinion: I always disliked the Tudor bracelets. The ceramic balls in he clasp are giving a very nice quality feel, but i prefer the look of the strapcode oyster.

My opinion: BB58 the bezel grip is bad.The dial printing on the Monta (especially the date frame) looks a little cheap-ish for 1900k. The movement on the Monta is very well regulated but the BB58 chronometer movement is better. It has 70 hours power reserve, non-magnetic silicon balance spring and double side bridge (better shock protection) for the balance.

I don't think buying watches like a Tudor will help you with AD relationship. This is basically the fake advice everybody gets. In my opinion this results now in situation where you can not get a good price on a Omega or Tudor anymore, because people buying watches to build their relationship. Buying a watch should make U happy not the AD.

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Thank you for this info. I work close to electronics and once in a while I need to demagnetize my watch. I didn't know a about the shock protection details. This is actually giving a good idea of what to expect.

 

I’m getting really excited. Thanks 🙏 everyone for your input.

 

Post up your thoughts when you get it!! I'm eyeballing the bb36, far in the future.

 

As said earlier, if you want it bad enough you can pay premium. They can be found all over the place.


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Initial thoughts…it's light. The bracelet rivets doesn't bother me as much when I saw it in person. The bezel is awesome. It glides into place easily. The crown winding is different from my other automatics. It's similar to my Universa winding action in which you feel the gears engage and hear the click when twisting. The only negative is the squeak on one of the bracelet link.

 

Initial thoughts…it's light. The bracelet rivets doesn't bother me as much when I saw it in person. The bezel is awesome. It glides into place easily. The crown winding is different from my other automatics. It's similar to my Universa winding action in which you feel the gears engage and hear the click when twisting. The only negative is the squeak on one of the bracelet link. View attachment 15996306

When you hear that click it means it's fully wound. Otherwise the winding should be silent and smooth. Rivets don't bother me either. I find them unique compared to anything else on the market. Love my BB58!

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The BB58 is awesome

 

I'm in the market for my first luxury watch. I looked into several different company and narrowed it down to the Tudor BB58 Blue. Im curious about the quality of the BB58. I've only had the Monta Triumph and I love the fully articulating bracelet, accuracy (0.5-2.5spd) and quality compared to other microbrands. My local AD does not have one to try on but I may be able to order. Questions before I pull the trigger.

Would I be able to tell a significant difference in the quality?
How common is the end link issue in which is moves around (thewatchidiot mentioned this)?
Any other issues that I should take into consideration?

I don't own the BB 58, but I do own a Heritage BB Steel 41 and a Monta Oceanking. I can tell you that the build quality and level of finishing on the Tudor is excellent, commensurate with the price point. The build quality and finishing on my Monta is close to, if not equal to the Tudor. The Monta definitely punches above its weight. The Monta actually has the better bracelet of the two. It is lighter without feeling any less substantial, and has a tool-less micro adjustment the Tudor doesn't have. Monta's bracelet is really one of the best in the business. It does have a long clasp, so bear that in mind if you have a very small wrist diameter.

The 58 will be closer in size and weight to the Oceanking (the Heritage 41 is heavy and thick). Tudor has the superior movement, but the SW300 in my Monta is no slouch. Mine has run +/- 5 seconds the entire time I've owned it. Monta's customer service is also excellent.

If you're looking to save some money, the Monta is an excellent choice relative to the Tudor, and well worth its price. But, if you value the more sophisticated movement and branch cache (and you can afford it) you can't go wrong with the Tudor, either. One other factor, the BB58 doesn't offer a date, so if having a date function is important you'd have to go with the Monta, or a different Heritage BB model. If you don't want a date, Monta had an Oceanking model without a date, but I don't know if it is still available.

 

Weird. I have no play in my endlinks. They don't move whatsoever. This is one of the very first Bb58 blue. Got it on release day.

I have changed towards a rubber strap and a leather strap once or twice.

Rock solid bracelet. No rattle.

 

I hava a Monta Triumph and a bb58 blue. The Monta is my Explorer substitute (with date!). Love them both and use the Monta most due to its incredibly comfortable profile. Quality… Tudor is a step up, but not a big one. I don`t use bracelets so can`t comment on that. In my opinion, Monta is one of the best «micro»brands these days.

 

I hava a Monta Triumph and a bb58 blue. The Monta is my Explorer substitute (with date!). Love them both and use the Monta most due to its incredibly comfortable profile. Quality… Tudor is a step up, but not a big one. I don`t use bracelets so can`t comment on that. In my opinion, Monta is one of the best «micro»brands these days.

What straps are you using for your Triumph? I'm looking for one that goes well with the gray dial. I have this one on today.

 

What is a Monta.

 

Monta is a micro-brand. One of the best out there, that matches big brand 5x their prices. Check them out MONTA Watch | Swiss made tool, military and dive watches

 

I think the scarcity of the bb58 is a thing of the past. I went to a Tudor AD in Orange County, CA looking to order a bb58 and they told me I can order it and I would receive it in a few days.

 

Agreed. My local AD in dallas had the BB58 blue on bracelet, strap and nato in their case about 2 weeks ago.

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same here

The blue one is all over the place. Think I saw 5 of them during my last visit. 2 in the window and 3 in the case.

Black is rare and usually on nato or leather, if available

 

The question seems to be - where is the Monta? It is normally on an Original MN from Erika`s originals. Hm. Had it yesterday…

 

Perfekt colour combination!!!

 

I'm in the market for my first luxury watch. I looked into several different company and narrowed it down to the Tudor BB58 Blue. Im curious about the quality of the BB58. I've only had the Monta Triumph and I love the fully articulating bracelet, accuracy (0.5-2.5spd) and quality compared to other microbrands. My local AD does not have one to try on but I may be able to order. Questions before I pull the trigger.

Would I be able to tell a significant difference in the quality?
How common is the end link issue in which is moves around (thewatchidiot mentioned this)?
Any other issues that I should take into consideration?

it's very rolex like, so no micro brand is going to compare, plus rolex will be around to service your watch and god knows who will stand by a micro brand.

bezel has ceramic bearings, feels like no other
large crown, easy to unscrew/screw, just as smooth as rolex
any bracelet problem with Tudor can be fixed by uncleseiko's tudor replacement (Black Bay 58)
Nato's are made by the same mill that makes the popes garments
movement is literally the latest and greatest

i had a BB 41MM and a Submariner, and literally no other brand can match how well made they are, accurate movements, incredible tolerances, sharp edges, beautiful finishes/polishes. Even Grand Seiko Divers can't compare. it's really more than a name.