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Vostok movement problems

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#1 ·
I have a new Vostok less than a month old with 2415 automatic movement. It seemed to be going well and my faith in Vostoks was increasing from a very low point. The first problem I encountered was when I left it off for the night and put it back on in the morning while it was still ticking. It stopped but shouldn't have as I've noticed the auto winding is extremely efficient on this watch. I've noticed that even after a lazy day and then going to bed, it still has over 20 hours of reserve built up.

This happened again so I decided to shake the watch to build power reserve to see if it was just running low, which I knew wasn't right because usually a healthy Vostok movement starts ticking when you just even pick it up! So after the shaking it would tick for between 5-60s approximately and stop. I fiddled with the crown, moving the hands forward a lot which seemed to work.

So then I left it to check once more that the power reserve was ok and it was. After less than 2 min of shaking it had built up lot of power reserve.

After this I hand wound it fully, let it run down, hand wound it fully again and found it had stopped again about an hour after being fully wound. So I shook it, played with the crown a little to move the hands, bumped it a little to no avail. Giving it the palm smack was the only thing that worked this time. It's currently ticking away and I'll check again when the power reserve runs out whether it will have problems starting again.


What's the latest thinking about this problem because I've read about it many times. Is it badly lubricated? I mean it keeps great time (+17spd out the box and slowed to +3spd and winds very smoothly.

I have 5 watches now and planning on rotating them. I don't want to have to keep having to smack the Vostok every time I'm going to wear it.

I've contacted the seller but if I have to send it back at my expense it's not good because shipping costs half of what the watch cost.
 
#3 ·
Yes, if it stops after being fully hand-wound, there is something wrong with the 'base' caliber, not (the usual) auto winder.

Fist thing - check if the second hand clears the hour hand, sometimes the second hand gets in touch wit the hour hand and stops the watch (an issue rather easy to see, but sometimes passes unnoticed). If it's not the issue - it can be as easy as a piece of lint or dust in the gears. Most likely nothing serious, but usually requires a full service, unless it can be seen clearly somewhere in the train…

Also could be a bad mainspring, hard to tell without seeing.

A good clue would be if the amplitude of the balance is good and then the watch suddenly stops (that means lint/dust/bad gear tooth or hands issue) or if it's generally poor with the watch stopping eventually after some time (which means a constant problem impairing movement's performance).

If you can't open a watch - listen to it, if it ticks 'strongly' or 'weakly' when it's running.
 
#6 ·
Yes, if it stops after being fully hand-wound, there is something wrong with the 'base' caliber, not (the usual) auto winder.

Fist thing - check if the second hand clears the hour hand, sometimes the second hand gets in touch wit the hour hand and stops the watch (an issue rather easy to see, but sometimes passes unnoticed). If it's not the issue - it can be as easy as a piece of lint or dust in the gears. Most likely nothing serious, but usually requires a full service, unless it can be seen clearly somewhere in the train…

Also could be a bad mainspring, hard to tell without seeing.

A good clue would be if the amplitude of the balance is good and then the watch suddenly stops (that means lint/dust/bad gear tooth or hands issue) or if it's generally poor with the watch stopping eventually after some time (which means a constant problem impairing movement's performance).

If you can't open a watch - listen to it, if it ticks 'strongly' or 'weakly' when it's running.
Thanks for the advice. The second hand is stopping far away from the other hands so don't think it's that. It is ticking strongly when it works, and accurate.
 
#4 ·
Vostok watches are actually pretty good, and yours obviously needs service/repair. Vostok's can be repaired easily and quickly, and not too costly from what I have read. |>

Sorry, I do not know where near Scotland you could send it though.

Maybe do some on-line searches for "Vostok Watch Service."
:-(

:)
 
#5 ·
I don't need to be told that Vostok watches are good or bad. It's all about personal experience and mine has been terrible to say the least as has many others. So far out of around 10 Vostoks over the years only 2 have worked the way they should and 1 of those 2 had a wonky dial so I'm being kind, the other one I had for very little time. I'm glad your experience has been good.
 
#9 ·
I said it before and will say it again. This was tested and proven to be the best advise ever for the new Vostoks. This is what should be done:

1) buy a new watch
2) go to a good watchmaster and have it serviced
3) put it on and enjoy for years

The mistake many new owners make is that they skip step 2. Big mistake! Obviously the last statement is a joke but the above approach is not a joke. The watches are built on a good caliber but the assembly, QC, tuning of the watch is completely missing at the factory. Some people are lucky to get a better watch and some get a lemon. Every new Vostok buyer should expect to need the service the watch after buying it or soon after it. Any new watch working Ok w/o a service is a lucky buy. Yes, maybe 50% of watches are done good enough to work for a few years w/o a service. Maybe 75%. But there is a significant % that badly needs service right from the day 1.
 
#10 ·
I agree 100%. First thing I do with a new Vostok is crack the caseback and touch the few jewels I can see with some Mobious. Then slap it on the good old timer machine to check the rate. Then go from there.

Kinda like when my first child came home from the hospital. I opened his caseback and oiled the few jewels I could see....

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#23 ·
I'm sorry to hear about your problems.

I've had the opposite experience. I have 4 Amphibias. All 4 run well without issues. While within spec, some are better than others but I can and do regulate them. One was oiled and regulated by Favinov. Two were purchased from Meranom. One was bought used from a forum member.

I also have a couple of the inexpensive manual wind Komandirskies. They run well too. In fact, I'm considering using the Komandirskie movement in an Amphibia mod I've been contemplating.

I wish you all the best with your next watch purchase whatever it is. This is supposed to be fun.

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#26 · (Edited)
I'm sorry to hear about your problems.

I've had the opposite experience. I have 4 Amphibias. All 4 run well without issues. While within spec, some are better than others but I can and do regulate them. One was oiled and regulated by Favinov. Two were purchased from Meranom. One was bought used from a forum member.

I also have a couple of the inexpensive manual wind Komandirskies. They run well too. In fact, I'm considering using the Komandirskie movement in an Amphibia mod I've been contemplating.

I wish you all the best with your next watch purchase whatever it is. This is supposed to be fun.

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Not an uncommon post type on forums. I had a problem so all are bad, everything is bad. Some* are click bait.

The watch was within specs but slow? I think there is an adjustment for that? Teenyweeny bit of googling might help the poster and the Rolex(obv) watchrepairer?

Here is something positive. Over 40 Vostok new and not a single problem.

(What usually happens now is the next post saying I'm connected to the manufacturer.....:))
 
#25 ·
So I have the choice of sending it back to komandirskie.com to be fixed with a discount or accessory to make up for shipping costs. Or to have it serviced by a kind member here for ÂŁ20 plus return shipping (turnaround time unknown).

To be honest I just want rid of it and never think about Vostok again. It's working again and keeping good time. I'll test it again when the power reserve runs out to see if it starts ok.
 
#30 ·
Each to their own, I've only had the two, now got one for my son, but the only problem I'm having is a 'niggle' with my current one, but that normally runs within 10 seconds a day now it's settled in. I'm happy with these watches, as said, knock it and not too bothered, if I forget to take it off when hedge cutting, again, not too bothered as they are quite robust.
But then, I used to ride Czech motorcycles - they used to be classed as cheap junk, but they always got me to where I was going (clocked up over 80k miles on just one of mine - at one point, I'd got 8!)
 
#35 ·
Out of curiosity James , have all your's been Amphibs.
The only ones stopped of mine have. Read a thread a while back about wrong length stems being fitted to some, thought fixed now. Found by not screwing the crown down ran fine. Just pinch now, never tight.
Never had a prob. (touch wood) on any since , and never (touch wood , again) on any other of their range.

As for Shanghai , ace , got a few too ;)
 
#36 ·
I had a handwind Komandirskie that ran well with only 1 stoppage in around 1 months total of wear. That was an Amphibian case though. The small ladies Amphibia handwind I got my mum along with an Amphibian cased Komandirskie for my dad for their ruby anniversary also has issues stopping early before the power reserve has run out and getting started.
 
#38 ·
My new Vostok Commanders watch:
Model No: 65084M
Movement: Auto self-winding movement 2416.B
Style 200 m; WR, 31 jewels

Second day wearing, wound by deliberate arm motions X50.
Too early to report on accuracy (maybe about 1 min per day fast), but I note that it does not tick audibly.

I can normally hear a slight ticking on quartz watches, so I am concerned particularly after reading the far from glowing reports on this forum.
Guidance requested. Bit reluctant to spend half the cost of the watch on a professional service, at least at this stage.
Thanks