Most current Seiko offerings can be hand-wound. It's the older / discontinued models that can't be.

 

Apart from the fact that it's not necessary? Doesn't take a few minutes of shaking. A few seconds? Sure.

like others have said, most actually have hand wind capabilities now.

 

I should have said 1 minute... it just seems like a few. Even after shaking my Seiko for 1 minute and leaving it off my wrist for 10 hours, it has stopped. I have several Seiko 5s. They were all new when I bought them last year and are in good working order.

This is not a major problem for me. I'm just curious about it.

 

Vast majority of modern Seiko movements can be wound by hand, including entry level NH15 and 4R36.
7S26/7S36 movements are not hand wound but have been used at the very cheapest of Seiko 5 offerings and phase out has been on the way for some time now

 

Modern ones can definitely be hand wound..

 

There are current Seik0 5's with 7S36 movements that you can't wind. Seiko 5 Black Dial Stainless Steel Men's Watch SNZG13J1

 

... Huh ... Hadn't figured automatics couldn't be hand wound. Such much nuance to this new world I'm venturing into. Thanks for the discussion and education.

 

I have to agree. Seiko watches have very poor movements from my experience. I had a Seiko Turtle once and the "automatic" movement just stopped after I didn't wear it for a few days.
Won't be going back to that brand!

 

I have to agree. Seiko watches have very poor movements from my experience. I had a Seiko Turtle once and the "automatic" movement just stopped after I didn't wear it for a few days.
Won't be going back to that brand!

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You may get agreements on this but it will be for other reasons besides power reserve.

Most automatics last 40-50 hours or 2 days so I'm not sure what you are comparing this "poor performance" to?

 

The "majority" of Seiko automatics have hand winding.

 

This is not true, the only modern Seiko movement that didn't feature handwinding was the 7sXX, now out of production (for what I understood). All the others have it.

 

If one is shopping used or bargain priced NOS in the lower price bracket, the majority being considered are likely Seiko 5s with 7S26 movements.

 

Most Seikos can be hand wound now but they were rather slow to adopt this feature on many of the lower end watches probably because they were selling well and Seiko saw no reason to change.

 

I have two 6309-7049s, two 6139-6005, an SKX009, a Seiko 5 6308 dress-ish watch, any of which I can pick up, set the day/date and time, literally give it a few shakes, put it on my wrist and forget about. They keep perfectly fine time for so long as I wear them. I have a Samurai that can be hand wound but I treat it just like the other automatics. Some people (well, okay a load) here feel that a watch needs to be hand wound which I find to be borderline deficient thinking

 

Mine fire up almost effortlessly, and have a good PR as well, so no complaints on my end.

 

I actually dislike the seiko5 look of the tiny recessed 4:00 crown. I prefer a nice big chunky crown at 3:00

No hand winding doesn’t bother me with the seiko 5s. As has been said, it only takes a few shakes to get them moving. One of mine has a shorter power reserve though, it rarely lasts 24 hours. That’s a little annoying. But on the other hand, that one keeps time like a quartz when it is running so I guess it’s give and take.

 

Your post states “the majority of Seiko watches” but then you mention only the Seiko 5s in your collection? Seiko is comprised of SO much more than the Seiko 5 line

 

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True, I wasn't aware of the new ones.

I buy off Amazon mainly and I assumed they sold up to date production models.

Does anyone know where the new handwinding models can be found? I don't like to buy from Seiko official websites.

 

Why do the majority of Seiko automatic watches have no hand-winding option?

I know that you can get a decent power reserve by "shaking" it for a few minutes, but that can be a hassle.

(Emphasis mine). I'm going to call out "majority" here. I would say the vast minority are not hand-wound. The only ones I can think of that were not hand-wound were those cheap little Seiko 5 'toy watches' but I don't think they even make those anymore (consistently, anyway).

 

Got a SKX031 a while back (still have it) and immediately sent it out to have an NH movement swapped in (along with some other mods). Very glad I did. Before sending it out I did wear it for a few days with the stock 7s inside and could never get it fully wound. The hand winding ability with an auto is great, at least to "jump start" it before wearing it.

 

I suppose the real question is:

Why make a mechanical watch that doesn’t have hand-winding? Even if it’s an automatic?

But then we need to remember that it ain’t just cheap Seikos that don’t hand-wind…

 

Didn’t the PP Nautilus have no hacking or hand winding until recently?

I thought it was funny when I read that because I was sure only cheapo seikos and orients and vintage watches lacked those features

that said, I think handwinding is overrated for an automatic. I get by just fine without it. But I would not be complaining if I had it, unless it was some crippled handwinding that is a weak point for the movement, as on some Swiss movements - in that case just make it auto only.

 

Welcome to 2022

 

If you go to Ebay and search 4r36 Seiko you’ll get nearly unlimited hits on watches under $200 that allow hand winding.

 

There may be NOS Seiko 5 watches out there with now discontinued 7s26 movements, but every current low-end Seiko movement hand winds.

Historically, low-end Seiko movements were meant to be worn constantly every day by working class people before watch collecting and spec-geeking took over the hobby. Movements like 7s26 did just fine with daily ACTIVE wear.

As stated, Seiko and other bi-directional auto movements shouldn't be simply "shaken". They should be spun with the watch parallel to the ground about 2 "spins" per second. You can feel the rotor spin while doing this with a Seiko.