I don’t get Panerai thing, but everyone I know who owns one LOVES them in a way few other watch brand seem to grab people.

 

Same, the dial and overall look of the watch never did anything for me but the people that I know that own them love them

 

There are a few Panerais that I like such as the white dial Luminor Marina, but 44mm is just too big for me. I’m okay with third party movements in their less expensive references, but I know this is an issue for some, especially given their price point.

 

I don't get the Rolex thing, so my vote:

Go for it. PAMs are just plain awesome.

 

Their styling is a love it or hate it type of thing, but I don't think there is any doubt they are a quality watch. If you like the styling I'd say go for it.

And I wouldn't hold the lack of resale value against the brand. The vast majority of watches have crap resale value. Doesn't (necessarily) mean there's something wrong with them.

 

If you really like it, go for it.

 

I never understood panerai till i bought one just bcs it was too good a deal. Now i have 2 and i absolutely love them and they get more wrist time than my other watches.

Good thing abt the low resale is that you get great deals on used ones. And since they are built like a rock... You might as well take advantage of that. I have bought and sold 2 other panerais and made some money on both sales. But now i regret selling the pam00177 cause it was such an awesome titanium luminor.

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the fact that you’re thinking about paying Panerai money for a watch you don’t seem that enthusiastic about is a recipe for king-term disappointment.

On the one hand, if you love the look of a Panerai, there’s no substitute. This, if there was a PAM you’re obsessed with? I’d say go for it. But you’re clearly not in that camp.

for you, who desires a Rolex enough to sit on a Rolex waitlist, you’re probably going to end up jonesing for a Rolex in no time because for those who want a rolex, Nothing else will do in the long run. Better to wait out your submariner dream than end up owning a Panerai you only feel lukewarm about. You want that crown. Get what you want, not what you have to settle for.

 

For those that appreciate and get Panerai, it is easy. I love the brand, the Italian flair, the history and the style of theor more traditional PAMs. I will probably keep my Luminor Marina forever...it has been around the globe with me on great adventures and it’s just plain cool in my opinion!

 

For those that appreciate and get Panerai, it is easy. I love the brand, the Italian flair, the history and the style of theor more traditional PAMs. I will probably keep my Luminor Marina forever...it has been around the globe with me on great adventures and it’s just plain cool in my opinion!

^^ This.

Good to see another early PAM111 from the times before the sandwich dial!

 

I personally love the PAM style, I’ve probably built more homages than I can count, but even as my own buying power has increased these days I still don’t know that I believe Panerai is worth what they ask. I don’t totally have a reason for that, but it’s just me. Some of the models used to be, less so now, just so simple that a good homage was basically the same thing as a gen. They’ve done a good job differentiating themselves in the last 10 years from that statement, but I still just have a hard time mentally equating their core models with $5k+. I think it’s definitely an X Factor that you just have to “get”, and if you don’t get it, it’s just never going to make sense to you.

but overall I would say that I already probably wouldn’t buy one based on the description thus far in this case as it doesn’t seem like you’re in love with any of them. Practical concerns are important but boy howdy at Rolex money the watch you buy better be really, really compelling to you personally or all the features and wearability in the world is going to seem like a let down at 8 grand. The question to me would need to be “why shouldn’t I go to the AD tomorrow morning and buy this watch that I can’t stop thinking about?”

i would expand horizons a bit. Rolex is the base line. It’s mac and cheese with the powder sauce. Omega is a pb and j. Looking panerai is a good shake up from the next aisle over but surely there’s something out there that just screams to you in such a way that resale isn’t the first objection you have. We’re looking for emotion here, I think.

 

I am fond of the brand. If you go that route, be sure to save a grand or two for straps!

 

I have been a watch lover for a while now. I currently own Tag Heuer, Breitling, Zenith, IWC, Omega, JLC, Vacheron Constantin, and Rolex, including the latest Sub and Polar. I considered Panerai for a few years until I recently pulled the trigger and purchased one. Let me tell you, I cannot get that freaking watch off my wrist, I love the feel, the look, the endless straps possibilities. I am seriously considering selling most of my watches, including the Rolex, and just getting 2 maybe 3 more Panerai. It's not just the honeymoon phase, cause I had been thru that with all my timepieces before. It's just something about Panerai, now I fully understand the Paneristi.

 

They have a certain 'je ne sais quoi' which in my opinion is their versatility. Dive watch with no bezel that can be a casual or dressy watch depending on the strap. While I don't own a Panerai, I wouldn't shy away from one if it came my way at the right time and the right price. I particularly like the blue of the PAM01033.

Not my pic.

 

Calling @bigclive2011

 

I am very fond of my Radiomir.
There are two good reasons to own Panerai:

(1) You are a frogman in the Italian Navy in the 1930s.
(2) You are old as dirt and your eyes are going bad.

Guess which one of those is my reason?

 

You are a time traveller from the 1930s?

 

Panerai is a very good watch. Very good resale also.

 

I have a LE Panerai that i went to great trouble to acquire, and i quite like it. However, IMO, unless the history of Panerai as a diving watch matters a lot to you, there are other, better watches out there for the money.

I also have a polar Explorer II and for me, it stomps all over the Panerai. It is an amazingly versatile watch that really does everything: I have taken it hiking in the glaciers of Central Asia, to nice dinners and everything in between.

(If it helps with the waiting, I am considering a Czapek and i have been told it's a 2 year wait to get on the waitlist - and then however long it takes to get the watch)

 

I am considering a Czapek and i have been told it's a 2 year wait to get on the waitlist - and then however long it takes to get the watch)

Mike Margolis from Czapek Americas here. Our order books will open up at Watches and Wonders 2023, last week of March. Those newly ordered watches should deliver in 2024.

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this was my zag. it's smaller than most pams. but it's still a thick chunk of steel and weighs a ton on a heavy bracelet. it's more versatile as well. it can still be dressed up more on a black leather.

 

Not Panerai IMO. They received some criticism some time ago for cheaping out on the movement or something. IDK, not for me.

 

Love the look and the design. But their movements don’t wow me. I too find the prices to be high considering. However, the blue Marina is so nice and I’ve been tempted so many times.

Also, good on you for not playing those insane AD games. I won’t be buying any fancy crown watches as long as these types of things exist. Gotta wait a bit, fine. Encouraging you to buy more to move up, kiss my white behind.


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I only like PAM000 based logo. Everything else is meh for me.

 

Yup! Although sub is growing on me…

 

Buy pre-owned. Ive had the 000, 104, 1004, 312, 372, and 111. They lose value a lot.


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You sound very concerned with resale value, stick with Rolex.

Buying BNIB from an Ad on any other make is gonna catch you a cold on resale.

All bar one of my Pams have been bought LNIB from a respected source, and then the big depreciation is your friend not your enemy.

 

You sound very concerned with resale value, stick with Rolex.

Yup, another one

I'm now finding it difficult to remember a time when the majority of posts weren't about financial performance and metrics. God it's dystopian.

OP, it sounds like you're interested in money rather than style, or buying what you like. Stick with Rolex assets; it doesn't matter which underlying instrument, they all perform better than Panerai, that's the most important thing.

 

I own both and love both but the Panerai just has endless choices of strap , movement and case . I would own another in a heart beat ….👍🏻

 

I like the design, I really do. The 42mm ones fit me well and I could even get away with the 44mm references. But there are three things that keep me off ever buying one:

• Quality. There's a reason why it's so hard to tell if you bought a replica. Their finish would be OK if they were half the price. For the premium they charge? No way. I've tried several and all I can say I've been more impressed with the finish of Seikos that are below 1000€.
• Lies. From the history of the brand (today's Panerai isn't really Panerai) to the whole movements extravaganza. I don't get how some watch enthusiasts say they love the "heritage and history" of watches and then buy Panerai.
• Souless Big corp behind the brand. Kind of connected to the previous point, and to be fair, that goes for a lot of brands. But I've decided to not buy from any brand that belongs to a big group like Swatch, Richemont or LVMH. That limits my choices but I'm OK with that.

 

Not really a Panerai guy but go for it!