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Vympel and Poljot/Luch de luxe (cal. 2209) collector’s guide

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1.0 A short history of thin watches[1]

The trend towards thin dress watches began in the 1950’s, with Swiss watch companies including Vacheron Constantin, Jaeger Le Coultre and Piaget. In 1952, Vacheron Constantin released the calibre 1001, then the world’s thinnest wristwatch movement at only 2.94mm, and just three years later followed it up by the calibre 1003 which was just 1.64mm thick. This movement was also adopted by Le Coultre and Cartier.

In 1960 Piaget launched the 12P, which at 2.3mm was the thinnest self-winding movement in existence. Nowadays Bulgari is one of the most prolific producers of ultra-thin movements and watches. It is the current record holder with the recently released Octo Finissimo Ultra Mark II hand wound watch, which is only 1.7mm thick. Piaget has this year released the Altiplano Ultimate Concept Tourbillon which, as the world’s thinnest tourbillon watch measures at just 2mm.



The Bulgari Octo Finissimo Ultra Mark II[2] and the Piaget Altipiani Ultimate Concept[3]


2.0 The 2209 movement

In early sixties the Ministry of Mechanical Engineering and Instruments of the USSR demanded a very flat watch with a thickness of the movement less than 3mm.[4] Three major watch factories came with their own version, all, albeit being different, identified as 2209. In general the 2209 code indicates the diameter of the movement, in this case 22mm, and the second two digits describe the complications of the movement. 09 stands for central second hand with shock protection.

The 1st Moscow Watch Factory’s version of the 2209 movement, initially called 60-ChN,[5] had a thickness of 2.9mm and utilised 23 jewels. Compared to the other contemporary thin calibers this calibre had a central seconds complication. It also had an anti-shock device and a power reserve of 41 hours with a frequency of 18,000 vph . In 1961 the Vympel (‘pennant’) brand was born with this very thin movement. For some four years, until 1964 the 1stMWF 2209 was produced under this brand. All these have the diamond logo of the 1stMWF, however Vympel watches with a Poljot branded movement only ceased around 1965.[6] From 1962, production of the 2209 also commenced in parallel at the Minsk Watch Factory, after the 1stWMW passed on the documentation to the former. Production of the so named ‘Luch 2209’ ramped up in 1963.[7] Luch only stopped production of the 2209 in 1990.

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Poljot 2209 movement from a 196? Movement parts catalogue

The movement’s reduced thickness is due to the lateral shift of the gear train and the minute wheel so that the barrel and balance wheel would not be superimposed by other gears. This meant a thinner movement without having to make the components and the bridges thinner and thus weaker.[8]

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The Luch 2209 movement[9]

Although this movement was not the thinnest in the world it was still a technical milestone.[10] The Vympel won a gold medal at the Leipzig Fair and at the Soviet Economic Achievements Display.[11] An advertising booklet issued by Mashpriborintorg, a Soviet import and export company, mentions that Poljot was to launch a 2mm thick movement in the near future.[12]

This thinner movement was the 2200 with a thickness of 1.85mm. however this came at the price of the thin bridges which were susceptible to deformation. This rare calibre was produced for just one year, possibly of just 100 units,[13] all in gold plated cases.[14]

Raketa’s 2209 was 2.7mm thick and was developed in 1965 and produced for around 10 years. This is an entirely different movement from the 1stMWF’s 2209.

One interesting detail is the winding gears being located on the side of the dial.[15] Unsustainable production costs led to an end in production.[16]

By the end of the 60s Vostok also developed its own ‘thin’ 2209, however it had a thickness of 3.3mm, which fell short of both Raketa’s and the 1stMWF’s calibres.[17]


3.0 Vympel watches

For almost four years the 1stMWF 2209 was produced under the Vympel brand. The movements have the diamond shaped logo stamp of the First Moscow Watch Factory. In 1964 various brands were consolidated under the brand Poljot and production of the Vympel started winding down: some Vympel models produced as late as 1965 have a Poljot movement (with pentagon stamp).

Vympel’s name is translated as emblem or pennant and refers to the penants that were dispersed on the lunar surface upon detonation of the two segmented steel spheres which were carried to the moon by the Soviet Luna 2 spacecraft. The Vympel logo represents the trajectory of the mission.[18]

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One of the spheres carried by Luna-2 spacecraft[19]

The movement was housed in a slim case catalogued as CHN-961K having a diameter of 35 mm and a lug-to-lug length of 42 mm and overall thickness of 6.5mm, including caseback and convex crystal. Three different dals were produced under the brand Vympel. The original crystal of the Vympel watches was low profile with an arc which is continuous with the angle of the bezel. Hence the short second hand which wouldn't have fitted had it been longer. Most of the replacement crystals have a higher clearance and add to the overall thickness and may look like a mushroom from the side. The case back was of the snap type for all solid 14K and gold plated models.

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In the Berliner Zeitung of 16 March, 1963 (Volume 19 / Issue 223 / Page 4) an entry on the USSR Trade Fair there is a reference to Vympel watches:

Vlasov especially pointed out the excellent quality of the men's wristwatches "Vympel", "Wostok" and "Cosmos," as well as some women's wristwatches, which are exhibited in Leipzig and have hardly any competitors with regard to their accuracy and favorable price Are very much in demand.[21]


In the 15 Septembr 1964 issue of the Neues Deutschland (Volume 19, Issue 255, Page 7) notes the following:


… Mention is made of the powerful Moscow Watch Factory, and its model “Wympel” which is by far the most elegant and slimmest mass-produced men’s wristwatch in the world with a price of 50 roubles.[22]

This seems to indicate that the Vympel an “affordable” elegant dress watch which would have made it more accessible to the Soviet population.

The heading of the Vympel passport notes that this is a Class 1 watch, meaning that it was manufactured under the highest quality and precision standards that the Soviet industry of the moment could demand, governed by the GOST 6519-58 standards.[23]

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The watches had 20μ gold plated with gold plated hands and the indices have a golden colour and have a stainless steel caseback. A 14K rose gold version (including caseback)[25] has also been produced. They are extremely rare and the most collectable ones. Some were used by the CPSU to award Heroes of the Soviet Union in 1965 (20th Victory Day Anniversary) with special engravings on it's back.[26] Another rare version is a stainless steel case with a two-piece caseback.[27] This is quite unique since most of the Soviet made watches had plated brass cases which were easier to produce.

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Stainless steel case Vympel. These are very rare and confirmation of their actual production merits further study.[28]

It is of note that solid gold watches were not exported from the USSR and hence dials have inscriptions (logos) in Cyrillic. Gold cases are generally smaller than the normal cases and thus the dials are slightly smaller.[29]

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Wypel marked dial[30]

Vympel watches seem to have also been marketed as Wympel and with ‘Made in USSR’ at the bottom of the dial in English rather than in Russian. This could be the case of marketing for the German market. In the newspaper Neues Deutschland of 15 September 1964 (Jahrgang 19 / Ausgabe 255 / Seite 7) the reference to the watch is indeed as Wympel rather than the Vympel:

Mention is made of the powerful Moscow Watch Factory, which by their model "Wympel" are by far the most elegant and shallowest mass-produced men's wristwatch in the world at the price of 50 rubles: the electrical industry, which has produced modern and stylish lighting fixtures and devices.

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20 μ gold plating marking[31]

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14K rose gold model with markings on caseback and on case (top)[32]

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1965 Poljot passport of a Vympel confirming production continued after Poljot rebranding[33]


4.0 Poljot de luxe

In 1964 the 1stMWF took the name Poljot and various other previous Chistopol brands (Vympel, Orbita, Kirovskie, Moskva, etc) were brought together under this umbrella brand. This brand was named in honour of Yuri Gagarin’s first space flight in 1961 during which he wore a Sturmanskie watch manufactured by the 1st MWF.

Thus the Vympel were rebranded as Poljot De Luxe. The Poljot De Luxe production continued until around 1975. The 2209 movements for the Poljot De Luxe watches were stamped with the pentagon logo of the 1st MWF logo throughout its production in Chistopol. No movements with the 1975 redesigned logo of Poljot, a crown, have been produced. The font on the dial changed over time: first serif, then sans-serif. From catalogue evidence, in the realm of Soviet watchmaking, the caliber 2209, at least or some time, continued to be referred to as Vympel.[34]

Poljot Deluxe with the 2209 movement has been produced various dial designs with the most desirable ones being the minimalistic version with a sunburst metal dial with just indices (no numerals). In the gilded version of this model the hands gilded in gold and the indices have a golden colour. The cases came in both gold plated and stainless steel. Both versions came with stainless steel caseback. Poljot De Luxe watches come with both the snap type and the two piece type caseback with a locking ring similar to the Vostok Amphibia. The latter caseback design provided a level of waterproofing to the watch. Solid 14K gold watches came with a caseback of 14K solid gold.

The Poljot logo in Cyrillic on dial, surely destined for the local market, are very rare even on Avito where old watches from Russia are found in abundance. This logo is seen in a 1964 passport confirming its early adoption.
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1964 passport showing the Poljot logo in Cyrillic. [35]

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4.1 Cases

Case numbers are assigned in the order of creating the case designs, starting from "00" to "99". The third digit indicates the type of coating, the material of the case and other types of case decoration. From the below it can be determined that no chrome plated cases were used for Poljot de luxe models. The dial designations below are based on the follow three catalogues which are available to the author:


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  • Clocks Reference Book, published by Mashpriborintorg possibly in the first half of the 1970s.
  • Poljot Men’s Writwatch, published by Mashpriborintorg possibly in 1968
  • Men’s Watches. Mashpriborintorg possibly in 1972


Dial designation observations:

283 – round gilded case with lugs and a snapping stainless steel back; winding crown with a gasket for better waterproofing . Bezel is snap closing.

300 - stainless waterproof steel case with two-pieces case back with fastening ring.

593 - no notable differences could be noted from the 283 case above.

633 / 650 / 713 / 723 – these four case designations seem to refer to the same case which is proabbaly larger then the standard 283 / 593 cases due to a mechanism mounting ring. These are round gilded cases with lugs and a two piece stainless steel back; winding crown with a gasket for better waterproofing.

683 and 671 are square cases with the former being gold plated and the latter being chrome plated.


4.2 Dials

Case numbers are assigned in the order of creation of types of hands and dials, starting from "000" to "999". It is to be noted that this list is by no means exclusive and that many other dial designs exist. Only those dials in the 3 catalogues indicated in the Cases section above which are available to the author have been included. The inclusion of ’23 jewels shockproof’ at the lower centre of the dial does not seem to affect dial designation. In addition it is known that in addition to the silvery and golden dials there were also white and black ones.

Different catalogues use certain dial designations for different dial/hands setup (refer below).

4.2.1 Four Cardinal Arabic Numerals
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3, 6, 9, 12 marked with stylised art deco Arabic numerals and other hours marked by a single incision. Numerals are printed.

067 - silvery dial and gold plated hands stick hands (although it has the designation 067 it has a different design from the 067 dial indicated in the Full Hour Arabic Numerals below).

113 – gold coloured dial and gold plated stick hands (although it has the designation 113 it has a different design from the 113 dials indicated in the Bold Cardinal Markers and Double 12 O’clock Incision sections below).

116 – same as 067.

168 - silvery dial and silver hands stick hands

4.2.2 6 and 12 O’clock Arabic Numerals
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6, 12 marked with stylised art deco Arabic numerals and other hours marked by a single incision. Numerals are printed.

070 - silver dial, 6 and 12 numerals with other hours marked by incisions and gold plated stick hands

4.2.3 Double 12 O’clock Incision
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Double incision for ‘12’ marker and elongated incisions for 3, 6, 9 markers with the other hour markers indicated by smaller incisions.

112- black dial and gold plated hands arrow hands

113 – gold coloured dial and gold plated arrow hands (although it has the designation 113 it has a different design from the 113 dial indicated in the Four Cardinal Arabic Numerals and Bold Cardinal Markers sections).

164 – silvery dial with black hour and minute hand and silvery second hand.

4.2.4 Triple 12 O’clock Incision
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Triple incision for ‘12’ marker and incised indices of equal size for all other hour markings

066 / 115 - silvery dial and gold plated hands stick hands

4.2.5 Full Hour Arabic Numerals
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Hours marked with printed stylised art deco Arabic numerals and printed small minute indice

067* - silvery dial and gold plated stick hands (although it has the designation 067 it has a different design from the 067 dial indicated in the Four Cardinal Arabic Numerals above)

184 – gold coloured dial and silvery stick hands

185* - silvery dial and gold plated stick hands

245* – silvery (possibly white) dial and gold plated stick hands

*On the black ad white catalogue it is difficult to identify other differences between the dial 067 and 245.

4.2.6 Bold Cardinal Markers
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Bold cardinal markers with the other hour markers indicated by smaller incisions.

113 - gold coloured dial and gold plated hands stick hands (although it has the designation 113 it has a different design from the 113 dial indicated in the Four Cardinal Arabic Numerals and Double 12 O’clock Incision sections above)

157 - silvery dial and gold plated hands stick hands

4.2.7 Concentric Dial Incisions
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Dial with double incision for 12 o’clock marker and single markers for the rest of the hours. Three concentric incisions around the dial (overlapping the hour markers).

146 – silvery dial and gold plated hands stick hands

147 - black dial and gold plated hands stick hands

4.2.8 Atom
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Design of dial includes four crossing arcs reminiscent of atomic structure and a double marker (resembling electrodes) embossed at each cardinal position.

158 - silvery dial with silvery hour and minute hand and black second hand.

4.2.9 Embossed Markers

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156 - silvery dial with gold plated hands. Embossed hourly markers with 3 and 9 0’clock having shorter and thicker markers. The 6 and 12 o’clock markers are set further towards the rim.

224 – silvery dial with gold plated hands. Embossed hourly markers with the four cardinal markers having shorter and thicker markers.

4.2.10 Four Cardinal Incisions
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Minimalist dial with just an incision at each of the four cardinal points.

159 – golden hue dial with gold plated hands

4.2.11 Square dials
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Square model with the later sans serif script[40]

152 - Silvery dial with embossed markers and silvery hands

153 - Silvery dial with embossed markers and gold plated hands

Thicker dials seem to have also been used by Poljot to house 2209 movements.


4.3 Automatic Poljot de luxe

An automatic Poljot Deluxe version was produced in the 60s with the 22-jewel "Rodina" movement and then with the 29-jewel 2415 and 2416. In the early 70s the 30-jewel 2616.1N was adopted. Bloni automatic Poljots/Luchs were marketed in the Polish Republic, Mestis in Yugoslavia, Adanac in Canada and Exacta in Scandinavia. Other brand names included Primus, Cardinal, Fabuna, Velma, Alfa, Global-P, S-master, T-Master, Leon Piradet, Jean Cardot, Velma, Meister Anker, Omax, Wars, Noxil, Pierre Lourin, Vinca, Montine, Cossak and Carlise.[41]

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Poljot Deluxe with automatic movement[42]


4.4 The end of Poljot’s 2209 movement and de luxe model

In 1962 the 1stMWF passed on the documentation to the Minsk Watch Factory and production of the movement, named ‘Luch 2209’ ramped up in 1963. Initially, before production took off, Poljot 2209 movements were forwarded to the Minsk Watch Factory for assembly into Luch watches[43] Both Poljot and Luch 2209 watches were exported to the UK branded as Sekonda, to Germany branded as Corsar and to France branded as Cornavin. Eventually, in 1975, Poljot ceased production of the 2209 movement and the de luxe watches and passed on all related equipment to the Minsk Watch Factory.

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A Cornavin by the 1MWF[44]


5.0 Luch

From 1962, production of the 2209 commenced at the Minsk Watch Factory in parallel to the 1stMWF. The Luch 2209 was based on the Poljot’s 2209 after, upon a governments’ decision, the latter passed on the related documentation to the former., after the 1stWMW passed on the documentation to the former. Initially the 1stWMF passed 2209 movements for assembly in Luch watches, however production of the so named ‘Luch 2209’ ramped up in 1963.[45] Luch only stopped production of the 2209 in 1990.

It has been noted that the mechanisms of the 1stMWF and Luch are slightly different and that some parts are not interchangeable, for example, the barrel pawl, screw and springs are different.[46]

Luch used the 2209 movement in various cases round, square, rectangular and even pocket watches. Materials adopted included gold, gold plated bronze, chromed bronze and also plastic. From the catalogues available no stainless steel cases seem to have been used by Luch for the 2209, however it is not to be exclude that export models branded Sekonda etc. had stainless steel cases. Although thin versions were also produced, some of square/rectangular models had excessively thick cases that defeated the purpose of the thin movement and this same thinking applies to its use in pocket watches. However a cursory of catalogues from the 1970s shows that the 2209 was one of the main movements being used by Luch. The catalogue Soviet Wrist Watches published in 1977 by Central Research Institute of Information and Economic Research of Instrumentation, automation and Control Systems lists 49 different models with this movement:

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The Luch 2209 movement models in the Catalogue of Cultural and Household Goods, volume 1 – Clocks published in Moscow in 1977 by the Central Research Institute of Information and Economic Research of Instrumentation, automation and Control Systems

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Plastic case model published in the catalogue Soviet Wrist Watches published in 1979? by VPO SOJUZCHASPROM


Luch 2209 Solid Gold (14K?) as published in the Catalogue Goods for People’s Consumption, Volume 1 – Watches published in Moscow in 1972 by the Central Research Institute of Information and Economic Research of Instrumentation, automation and Control Systems

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Pocket watch published in the catalogue Soviet Wrist Watches published in 1979? by VPO SOJUZCHASPROM

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Thick case 2209 movement (35mm x 35mm)[47]

There are many dial variations for the Luch 2209 model with gold, silver black and white coloured dials as well as other colours such as red, green, brown, dark blue and olive green. Similarly to the Poljot versions these watches were sold under various brand names depending on the target country.

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Corsar model by Luch[48]

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Sekonda 2209 by Luch[49]

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Luch 2209 model with passport[50]


5.1 65th Anniversary Model

In 2018 for the 65th anniversary of the Minsk Watch Plant, later renamed Luch, launched a 2209 movement based model. Only 65 examples, using restored 2209 movements were produced at a 650 Rubles each and these sold out immediately upon release.[51]

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6.0 Collector’s guide

Brief timeline[52]

1961 Caliber 2209 mastered; Vympel is produced by the 1MWF
1962 Luch 2209 is introduced (with pentagon "Minsk" movement logo)
1963 Luch 2209 enters mass production
1964 1MWF is officially renamed "Poljot"; Poljot begins producing 2209s with the pentagon "1MWF" movement logo
1965 Overlap year, when both Poljot and Vympel-branded 2209s are produced, both with pentagon "1MWF" movement logo
1966 The Vympel is extinct; Luch and Poljot production continue
1968: Sans-serif Poljot dial logo introduced
1975 1MWF ceases 2209 production; Luch logo changed the pentagon "Minsk" movement logo to the "beam" movement logo
1977 Luch arc dial logo is phased out
1990 2209 production stops.

When buying a watch with a passport make sure to check that the serial number beneath the balance wheel and watch make corresponds to the makeof th watch and the serial number on the passport. Otherwise, the document would be for another watch altogether.


6.1 Dial

Although Vympel models had just three different dials the subsequent Poljot and Luch production expanded the catalogue to a large number of different ones.

6.1.1 Indices
A major giveaway to fake or new dials are the indices. On original dials the indices have parallel sides, whilst the fake ones are curved into a shallow arc all along their length. On fake dials the markers are sometimes placed further apart.




6.1.2 Logo

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The watches with the new logo (1977-90) should have the beam logo on the movement and not the pentagon one.


6.2 Hands

Unlike the common understanding on Poljot de luxe it is not necessarily true that stainless steel models come with steel hands and gold-plated cases come with gold plated hands.

Hour and minute hands come in two designs: the stick type and the arrow type. In the stick design the minutehad reaches up to 75% of the long indices, while the second hand reaches up to 25% of same. The hour hand is jut short of reaching the indices.

The seconds hand was short due to the clearance of the crystal. Being the topmost positioned hand. had it not been short, it would have rubbed against it, preventing the proper functioning of the watch.

It is quite usual for Luch’s watches to have a red second hand.

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6.3 Case

Poljot de luxe watches came only either in gold plated bronze or stainless steel cases. No chrome plated cases were used for Poljot de luxe units.

6.3.1 Movement mounting ring
Vympel and possibly early Poljot cases with tight fitting stem. Later cases had a semi-circular cut in the movement mounting ring.[53]



6.3.2 Lugs
During its time in production the case underwent minimal changes, namely to the lugs: the first cases had lugs with a rounded base and later ones the lugs had a flat base.[54] This applies for both Poljot and Luch production.

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rounded lugs and flat lugs[55]


6.3.3 Caseback

Vymel come with stainless snaping caseback (the 14K gold ones are in gold). The Poljot De Luxe and Luch both come with both the snaping type and the two parts type similar to the Vostok Amphibia. In all cases these are made of stainless steel. It is safe to consider that the two piece caseback was adopted at a later stage in the production of the 2209 watches.

As a general rule Vympell and Poljot snap casebacks have a "concentric circle pattern" brushing, whilst the Luch models have straight brushing. The two piece casebacks are lightly polished (refer to the gold markings photo below).


6.3.4 Gold markings

Gold plated watches are stamped with Au (the periodic table symbol for gold) and a number denoting the thickness in microns. Normally the μ symbol is also added.

Poljot cases have a 20 micron plating, however Luch produced versions with 20, 10 and 5 microns (decreasing throughout the years of production). The solid 14 karat models are stamped with the apposite markings on both the case and caseback (refer to photos above).

Luch have the gold marking stamps inverted when compared with the Poljot. The latter are positioned with the upper end facing the centre of the watch, whilst the former have the upper side towards the outer rim.[56]

Earlier Vympel models (1961) were marked with the inscription ‘Gold’ in cyrilic. Later revisions were marked with the regular ‘Au.’[57]

Solid 14K gold watches always have a dial in Cyrilic and are generally smaller than the usual case. Gold watches with changed dials usually have the ‘Made in USSR’ sanded off to achieve the required smaller diameter. [58]

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different Luch gold markings (1980 quartz watch with 1μ plating is only included for comparison)[59]


6.4 Crystal

The original crystal of the Vympel watches was low profile with a low arc which is continuous with the angle of the bezel and which was designed to keep a low watch profile. It is most probable that later Plojot and Luch models had a more convex crystal.

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The low profile of the crystal can be seen in this side view.[60]6.5 Crown
Four different types of crowns were identified:
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6.6 Movement

6.6.1 Bridge stamps[61]

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6.6.2 Balance regulating lever

Later 2209 movements have a slightly differng stud carriers and ring balance[62] (regulating lever). These later models come with both the Luch ‘beam’ and the SU stamp.

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The regular rgulating lever assembly (left and the slightly changed design in the later models (right).[63]




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[7] [8] Lorenzo Fe et al (2024). Russian Collectable Watches Vol. II. Trento: Reverdito, p. 30.
[9] Southern Watch and Clock Supplies Ltd, (n.d.). Sekonda - Identification Manual. Kent, UK.
[10] Lorenzo Fe et al (2024). p. 25.
[11] Mashpriborintorg, (1964?). Soviet Horological Industry and Export of Clocks and Watches. Moscow, p.3.
[12] Mashpriborintorg, (1964?), p. 5.
[13] Lorenzo Fe et al (2024), p. 30.
[14] Andrew Babanin, (25 March 2011) Soviet movements (Part 1). downloaded from Soviet movements (Part 1)
[15] [16] Lorenzo Fe et al (2024), p. 30.
[17] Lorenzo Fe et al (2024), p. 30.
[18] Lorenzo Fe et al (2024), p. 26.
[19] Лунные вымпелы СССР
[20] Straight_time (13 April 2020). Strictly related to the thread, a recent Meshok auction is of great help. Watchesuseek https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/an-attempt-to-update-the-2209-timeline.4422946/
[21] Sekondtime (16 June 2017). Well, I had a delve into the DDR Press archive and found some articles from Berliner Zeitung. Watches you seek https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/an-attempt-to-update-the-2209-timeline.4422946/
[22] Poljot 2209 (Vympel) English
[23] Poljot 2209 (Vympel) English
[24] Vympel - вымпел
[25] The weight of the gold body is about 12 grams. Cabalio, 24 December 2011. Watch.ru. http://forum.watch.ru/showthread.php?t=309&page=63
[26] Vympel - вымпел
[27] Poljot 2209 (Vympel) English
[28] Poljot 2209 (Vympel) English
[29] Hantei39th, 17 June 2012. The value in this form is at the price of gold scrap. Watch.ru. http://forum.watch.ru/showthread.php?t=96655&highlight=poljot+deluxe
[30] https://mroatman.wixsite.com/watches-of-the-ussr/vympel
[31]Часы Вымпел. Сделано в СССР купить в Ногинске с доставкой | Личные вещи | Авито
[32] https://www.avito.ru/klin/chasy_i_ukrasheniya/chasy_vympel_sssr_583_3979814920
[33]mroatman (15 June 2017). Greetings, watchfans -- Okay. Let's talk 2209.. Watchuseek https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/an-attempt-to-update-the-2209-timeline.4422946/
[34] Poljot 2209 (Vympel) English
[35] https://www.ebay.com/itm/203485514468
[36]nemitiy garri 23 December 2013. It's karma... "I put them in the door, they in the window..." Watche.ru. http://forum.watch.ru/showthread.php?t=309&page=162
[37] https://www.etsy.com/listing/1132131249/poljot-de-luxe-poljot-watch-ussr-watch
[38] https://nostalgia.su/en/naruchnie-u...naruchnie-ultratonkie-chasi-poljot-deluxe-sssr-v-redkom-korpuse-zolotogo-cveta/
[39] https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/25668481...kevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=710-53481-19255-0&campid=5338722076&customid=&toolid=10050
[40]https://hautejuice.wordpress.com/20...atch-rare-poljot-de-luxe-2209-23-jewels-ussr-watch-cccp-ultra-slim-gold-plated/
[41] Barbrige, 9 December 2012. Seconda–UK Primus-? Corsar-? Watch.ru. http://forum.watch.ru/showthread.php?t=309&page=156
[42] https://chasi-sssr.ru/marka/poljot/poljot-deluxe-automatik-2/
[43] https://orologi.forumfree.it/?t=70818205
[44] liahim (18 September 2015). Watchuseek. https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/sekonda-de-luxe-caliber-2209-23-jewels.872235/
[45] https://luch.by/en/o-zavode/
[46] Dmvt1, 27 December 2011. If so, I will tell you about this watch in technical terms. Watch.ru. http://forum.watch.ru/showthread.php?t=96655&highlight=poljot+deluxe
[47] Lion, 17 August 2012 As you can see, neither the 1st MChZ. Watch.ru. http://forum.watch.ru/showthread.php?t=96655&highlight=poljot+deluxe
[48] https://watchcharts.com/listing/164.../listing/164000-sale-2x-23-jewel-vintage-corsar-poljot-de-luxe-rare-export-2209
[49]https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/186734833304?itmmeta=01JAQGFJ6QEEZKMY232911MNT9&hash=item2b7a436e98:g:AUsAAOSwq2hm~ro5&itmprp=enc:AQAJAAAAwMxmj+iGvOveHXEBClPb29iFyfOsAXkRK8c/t09WUagbL4Jd297mQVp26RbULmQ/ECfy4s/WZWzyw6TeEYJjMn88mLxoQTgSbFByxQUj1BiWdpJVjDia2s/jJN0KBRcWeATqFNn9A/uEeCsAYf/220s67lyzTvp0OCsKE1Xzi+k8MnL7LVBc9tBjIrNmlSTCTY+hAyhuglmQU+unoO8PoUJyKtldJrsxp5V1whtWoKZWnOJkCZ/Ipu6dEm40o0JtlQ==|tkp:Bk9SR7ajvvDVZA
[50] Vympel - вымпел
[51] https://people.onliner.by/2018/12/19/louch
[52] mroatman (31 October 2017). Rereading my original post with fresh eyes. Watchuseek https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/an-attempt-to-update-the-2209-timeline.4422946/
[53] Fla, 13August 2020. Very early case, i have only one such case. Watchuseek. https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/an-attempt-to-update-the-2209-timeline.4422946/page-3
[54] Lorenzo Fe et al (2024), p. 27.
[55] Jasposiris (9 August 2012). Thank you all for your answers! Unfortunately, I was also thinking that the movement has been replaced. Watchuseek. https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/question-about-vympel.732422/
[56]-Tayemnyj, 28 April 2011. It turns out that in some Rays (maybe early ones?). Watchuseek. http://forum.watch.ru/showthread.php?t=309&page=156
[57] CHASPROM 17 July 2014 If the body of your Pennant is marked "Gold." Watch.ru. http://forum.watch.ru/showthread.php?t=96655&highlight=poljot+deluxe
[58] Hantei39th, 17 June 2012. The value in this form is at the price of gold scrap. Watch.ru. http://forum.watch.ru/showthread.php?t=96655&highlight=poljot+deluxe
[59] Chronotopos (13 April 2020). Thanks for this precious timeline Dashiell ! :-! Few subjects more to discuss : 1 - how do the very first Luch 2209 dials looks like? Watchuseek https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/an-attempt-to-update-the-2209-timeline.4422946/
[60] Vympel - вымпел
[61] Timeline based on mroatman ((31 October 2017). Rereading my original post with fresh eyes, I'm beginning to question one detail. Watchuseek https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/an-attempt-to-update-the-2209-timeline.4422946/
[62] https://ranfft.org/caliber/7723-Luch-2209
[63] https://ranfft.org/caliber/7723-Luch-2209
 

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I'm seeing a bunch of these pop up on ebay:

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I'd love to have a slim, handwind watch, and these are very interesting. Listing is not claiming they are vintage, NOS, or otherwise.

Anyone know what the deal is with these...? They all seem to be coming out of Ukraine.
Hello. :) Unfortunately, the dials are not Soviet. Also, the movement is Luch and the dial is an ersatz Poljot -- they wouldn't belong together even if the dial were original. Many fake dials are available:
Купить циферблаты для часов различных производителей..

As well as the wonderful primer put together by @nightbat73, which is extremely comprehensive and beneficial for a collector to review, there was also a helpful discussion a while back here:

Good luck with your searching! 🍀