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Watches with (show us your) excellent or worst viewing angles and contrast

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Show us what you have with excellent viewing angles / contrast. I will start with one of mine that got recently for close to nothing dollars but the superb contrast and one of the best viewing angle with no shadow digits etc, excellent legibility, simplicity, feather-light, loud alarm (compared to many of my other more expensive ones) makes me want to use this classic a lot.

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Plenty of negative LCD Casio models are worst. My personal worst are 6900 negative, AQ164W negative, AW591 negative.
SGW100 indeed has lousy angles but it's not bothering me to the extent of negative models.
Best f105/108 Nixon and Timex 50 lap full size.
For sure Samsung Galaxy Sport with OLED takes a win. That thing is 180 viewable.
 
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What reasons make different models' screen quite different? Is it because of different supplier of these screens that diff models have different qualities?

I don't think it has to do with cost since some of the very inexpensive ones like the F108 have excellent screens.
different reasons it's from electronics around, voltage control, screen build quality and frankly your luck.
Different types of screens have inherently different angles. STN, MIPS, LCD (there are several types of them among what considered just LCD), E-ink, OLED all have different inherited angles, different maximum attainable contrast etc.
Different screen thickness, voltage fed to non working elements, quality of manufacturing, design (size of elements, placement, tint/ no tint) etc. sets it apart in non type thing.
Angle itself is not full story for legibility but here we talking about angles.
there are technically 2 types of problems:
1. you see all elements
2. you stop seeing "working" elements.

With #1 been #2 plus extra. So things are complex and there is no singular answer to it.
F108 does not have way better angles than some other watches but it don't show non working elements and bold font create good contrast coupled with minimal distance between LCD and "crystal" create great visibility. so it's not exactly best angles but other factors making it more legible.
 
#15 · (Edited)
Garmin Instinct Solar. MIP or GTFO when it comes to overall "all lighting" contrast and viewing angles. The bezel obscures the screen before the viewing angle does.

STN displays came out in 1983 and are a complete joke compared to MIP displays. STN is no more expensive to manufacture than a "traditional" LCD; boggles my mind when I hear folks talking about it (especially on the G-Shock forum) as if it were the "future". Proposing STN displays as the "future" seems, at least to me, like a horse saddle manufacturer proposing their new riding tack as the "future" 10 years after everyone bought a Ford Model T. Sorry, but we're all done with that, why not join us in the new century Casio?

Here's the Wikipedia entry for STN for anyone who's been asleep since 1983...

Super-twisted nematic display

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Mips requires more processing power compared to regular or STN LCD alike.
Simply there are more elements to control and keep in memory. Not a huge deal in 2021 but ...
This is sufficient to keep seeing LCD only watches. Garmin, CASIO GBD and such are not watches per se. They are lower grade smartwatches. I feel bad about calling Instinct lower grade so let say more simple and monochrome.
If you think about it why not OLED? Because it will require even more processing power each pixel has color information to it. While regular F91 ish LCD has 30-40 elements to control Garmin Instinct has 40000 or more.
Not a big deal but most of digital watch tech has not changed since 80s. It's as conservative as mechanical watches in this regard.

Also not all MIPS displays created equal.
 
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I think you may need to investigate further about MIP displays. Here's a quick explanation of one of the manufacturers of these displays for sports watches like those manufactured by Garmin [Emphasis mine]:

Memory-In-Pixel (MIP)
With a randomly accessed stored bit per pixel cell structure, you address pixels individually, refreshing only those pixels which need to be changed thereby reducing power requirements.
The extremely low power LCD cell structure design makes these displays excellent candidates for battery powered applications, such as wearable medical devices, wearable sports gear, Internet-of-Things products and other portable applications.
The KYOCERA MIP technology provides:
  • Ultra-Low Power in Static Mode
  • Low Power when Changing Images
  • Contrast Ratio > 24:1
  • Reflectance > 17%
More Information

(Source link: Kyocera Memory-In-Pixel Technology)

The transflective MIP LCD displays used by Garmin, both color and gray-scale, are an excellent constant-on low power display choice which contributes to long device battery life - weeks instead of days.

HTH
 
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I personally can't believe oled ever made it to the watch world. Doesn't seem right to even call them watches when you can't tell the time of day most of the time they are on your wrist. Currently the sacrifice of color is worth it to be able to read a watch from angles, distance and at all times. Not to mention battery life. Really doesn't matter to me how old the tech is.

Just got an instinct and really liking it so far.
 
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Garmin fenix 6xPro with color transflective MIP LCD:
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Display can be set for either positive or negative at will. I'm impressed.
 
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